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« on: December 06, 2007, 04:04:17 AM »

i know you know what im talking about, because we all have the same problem... i would like to start  prayer/intercession/support group with all you guys who would be interested  so us who have not the strength to fight it any more can stand up and lean on our brothers for strength... if your interested, send me an email nitro21sc@yahoo.com

if you don't know what im talking about then obviously you don't need to email me :-)
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2007, 03:06:21 PM »

Pray for Kanye West:

Rapper Kanye West has confessed that he loves staying at home for days to watch porn. The 30-year-old singer revealed that he could lock himself in his house for two days to watch porn. "I like porno, I ain't going to hide the truth," The Sun quoted West, as saying. "I could stay in for a good two days with my stash. Can you love porn and be a good Christian? If you're a normal person you have needs," he added. Recently, the rapper revealed that he once seriously considered a career in porn movies before his engagement to Alexis Phifer. He also admitted that he was a womaniser before he met Phifer.

God help the men who struggle.  Amen.
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2007, 09:34:16 PM »

Kanye's Religion is Christianity, hes not a real Christian!!! an individual who is a real Christian does not love truly love pornography, or w/e there chemical of choice is, that just doest make any sense/ Struggling with anything does not mean you love it, or even enjoy it w/e it maybe, no one is perfect, I know I am certainly not. But the reality is, you have to look at the famous celebrities and judge them by their fruit, how can a bad tree bear good fruit? Alot of them that profess Christianity or Jesus does not make them true Christians, a couple of examples, Beyonce, Evanescence, Creed. Jesus did warn his disciples to be careful and watch out for those false prophets who come in his name, that does not just mean someone saying they themselves are the Christ, but individuals who say they are Christians but have no real relationship with G-d, want another example take a look at radical Islamic Terrorists who think killing innocent people including Jews is doing G-d a favor, they're clearly deceived. I agree we should pray for Kanye, hes going through alot with the loss of his mother, and that could really be messing him up. Who knows maybe he will turn to G-d for guidance and get saved!!!! You never know.  Cool Cool Cool
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2007, 01:31:49 PM »

Kanye's Religion is Christianity, hes not a real Christian!!! an individual who is a real Christian does not love truly love pornography, or w/e there chemical of choice is, that just doest make any sense/ Struggling with anything does not mean you love it, or even enjoy it w/e it maybe, no one is perfect, I know I am certainly not. But the reality is, you have to look at the famous celebrities and judge them by their fruit, how can a bad tree bear good fruit? Alot of them that profess Christianity or Jesus does not make them true Christians, a couple of examples, Beyonce, Evanescence, Creed. Jesus did warn his disciples to be careful and watch out for those false prophets who come in his name, that does not just mean someone saying they themselves are the Christ, but individuals who say they are Christians but have no real relationship with G-d, want another example take a look at radical Islamic Terrorists who think killing innocent people including Jews is doing G-d a favor, they're clearly deceived. I agree we should pray for Kanye, hes going through alot with the loss of his mother, and that could really be messing him up. Who knows maybe he will turn to G-d for guidance and get saved!!!! You never know.  Cool Cool Cool

may i suggest you go back and read your bible? or a systematic theology book?  being a christian is independent of your behavior.  your behavior is the FRUIT of coming into a deeper relationship with God, it is NOT what saves you. 
  kanye west may have a strained relationship with God at the moment, that doesn't mean he isn't saved...

you don't know what's in beyonce's or anyone else's heart.... and who are you to say kanye west isn't saved??

and i may be mistaken,but i HIGHLY doubt the false prophets referred to are talking about people like kanye west.

and by the way, the real name of God isn't "God", so you don't really need to type G-d, because you're not offending Him.   (this is exactly what the Pharisees did,by the way.....calling God the "maker of the heavens", etc because they were so paranoid that they'd accidentally take the Lord's name in vain.  as a matter of fact, "Lord" (Adonai) is a substitute word for Jehovah...)
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2007, 06:06:06 PM »

and by the way, the real name of God isn't "God", so you don't really need to type G-d, because you're not offending Him.   (this is exactly what the Pharisees did,by the way.....calling God the "maker of the heavens", etc because they were so paranoid that they'd accidentally take the Lord's name in vain.  as a matter of fact, "Lord" (Adonai) is a substitute word for Jehovah...)

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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2007, 11:53:01 PM »

I never did say that fruit would save anyone. I also do not know whats in Beyonce's or Kanyes heart, that is very true. But I guess typing the name "G-d" is not acceptable, and therefore supposedly makes me a Phariesee, then I guess I am?.  laugh laugh laugh Your entitled to your own opinion, just like I am, so there is no point in getting upset or offended, if you like Evenesenses, or Beyonce's music thats all fine with me, I have no quarrels with that or with you for that matter. I am not here to start any arguments, I am just voicing my opinion and nothing else.  hug hug hug

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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2007, 02:41:24 AM »

no, G-d is fine.  to each their own conviction, bro.  the Bible says that: if it's sin to you, then don't do it. 

i'm just trying to make the point that ALL of us are imperfect humans, whether it's you,me,bono,or beyonce.  think of it this way:  if perfection according to God is jumping the grand canyon, what does it matter if you or i jump 3 feet and our neighbor (kanye west) jumps 3 inches?

we're all just trying to figure out what life is about as we "look through a glass darkely"
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2007, 08:23:11 AM »

God has had so many names that it's pointless to argue over the spelling of it Wink Traditionally, Jews have not spelled his name out in completion for the reason's Davo has suggested. Jehovah is traditionally written w/o the vowels so it's: Jhvah.
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2007, 07:48:33 AM »

may i suggest you go back and read your bible? or a systematic theology book?  being a christian is independent of your behavior.  your behavior is the FRUIT of coming into a deeper relationship with God, it is NOT what saves you. 
 

I believe that our behavior is the fruit of our death, burial and resurrection with Christ according to Romans 6. Yes Jesus died for our sins, to put away the guilt and penalty of our sins, but He also put us to death with Him to put away the power of sin in our lives. Now,  my position in Christ determines how I live. I am about as deep into a relationship with God as I can get (at the start). I am in Him and He is in me. I am literally part of His body, seated right now in heavenly places with him.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2007, 10:46:54 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2007, 04:07:30 PM »

But the reality is, you have to look at the famous celebrities and judge them by their fruit, how can a bad tree bear good fruit?

In context thats a terrible arguement.

the unfortunate thing is you are judging them by the fruit that the media wants you to see because media makes a lot of money on people who fail in their lives.

if you saw only the terrible things I've done in my life you'd come to the same conclusion.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2007, 03:16:26 AM »

I know what you're gettin at man ... I too struggle with leaving the toilet seat up  laugh

Sorry couldn't stifle the urge to make a wisecrack. Umm I think I get what you're talking about but not 100 per cent ... but 98 per cent definitely ...
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2007, 08:41:57 AM »

But I must say it's great to see you guys talking about real issues Lips Sealed
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2007, 12:48:26 PM »

I know what you're gettin at man ... I too struggle with leaving the toilet seat up  laugh

Sorry couldn't stifle the urge to make a wisecrack. Umm I think I get what you're talking about but not 100 per cent ... but 98 per cent definitely ...

ROFL  that rules  smiley8
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2007, 10:06:33 AM »

xxxchurch.com

i would highly suggest their "X3 watch" program.  while i think most of the worry christians have about sexual "sins" are silly, i do know that pornography can become an addiction that really hurts people and their loved ones.  xxchurch is a pretty rad place that tries to end that.

perhaps you've seen the documentary about them called, "missionary positions"?
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