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« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2008, 11:43:07 AM »

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« Reply #61 on: July 03, 2008, 02:45:23 PM »

Didn't know Shiloh played in a gay-pride parade, but if they did, yeah, it bothers me.

wow did not know that. but then again I never really thought those guys were Christian anyway REGARDLESS OF WHAT EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD SAYS.

Very dangerous man....I would love to know how many coversations you have had with Colin and Justin. Maybe you are in a discipleship relationship with them and have come to realize they don't walk with Jesus because of their own admission?

If not, and you are making judgements of their hearts based on hearsay or venues they play...well...that is not the court I hope to find myself in or am called to be in.

I don't say this to be a jerk- I just want to call the Body to a place of humility- especially in these matters.

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« Reply #62 on: July 03, 2008, 03:00:41 PM »

To answer the original question about beatport, no it doesn't bother me, they are a business, they try and market every festival that appeals to dance music fans really.  You can't expect people who are not christians to act like them.  Personally I guess you have to decide if you want to support them or not then, but you shouldn't be involved in Dance Music then anyway, because its basically hanging out in Sodom, all the time.  Its very rare you get an event like cornerstone in the world today. 

sidenote: I love it when people act like the know exactly what Jesus would do in all situations, and where he would be etc, nice, those are classic for me.  Maybe Jesus would leave town, what was his mood that day when he was in the heart of the gay pride parade? maybe he was feeding homeless people and didn't have time for it, or perhaps didn't care, maybe he turned over floats or stepped out of the way for God to turn the parade to salt, maybe he was on after Shiloh?.   Smiley
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« Reply #63 on: July 03, 2008, 04:39:14 PM »

A funny quote from 'King of The Hill' comes to mind after reading this thread.

[Youth] Pastor K: Dude, you don’t have to act or dress a certain way for God. You can hang with him any way, anywhere. Don’t you think Jesus is right here in this half-pipe?

Hank [Hill]: I’m sure he’s a lot of places he doesn’t want to be.
- 'King of The Hill' 802 "Reborn to be Wild"

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P.S. This is, more than anything else, a facetious post by myself. I'm not trying to belittle any of the previous comments made here. This was just a funny quote that popped into my head just recently. Smiley
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« Reply #64 on: July 03, 2008, 09:38:14 PM »

Wow. I didn't expect this sort of response.

Of course, I had to search for this topic, because when I searched for new messages, it didn't show up.

I asked the question because some people on here release music on Beatport, and many other buy it there. I assumed that I wasn't the only bothered by "gay pride" stuff showing up in my e-mail.

Homosexuals definitely played a large part in the creation and popularity of disco, house, and the various forms of electronic dance music that we enjoy, but I doubt that God is going to relax his views on sin just because some sinners are very creative. Maybe I can't expect non-Christians to act like Christians, but God still will judge everyone's heart.

You can enjoy country music without endorsing alcoholism, and reggae without endorsing marijuana. When e-mails start showing up in your inbox advertising a dope-smoker's pride parade, I hope your conscience is bothered.
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« Reply #65 on: July 03, 2008, 09:41:25 PM »

and you can endorse Beatport without getting their weekly email.
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« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2008, 02:37:07 AM »

How can you surely take the splinter out of your friends eye before taking the log out of your own eye. Is it your right to judge on such matters or is it between the individual and God himself. Thats my opinion anyways not only with gay society but with anything that you think you have the right to judge and put down apon
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« Reply #67 on: July 04, 2008, 02:40:48 AM »

Also how is this directly related to music only that it is from a music selling site but the thread is not related to music rather the Gay community and judgement on something that you shouldnt judge on.
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« Reply #68 on: July 04, 2008, 03:11:11 AM »

Also how is this directly related to music only that it is from a music selling site but the thread is not related to music rather the Gay community and judgement on something that you shouldnt judge on.

An ironic statement is it not? Aren't you judging those who judge? For this to come full-circle they would now need to judge you for judging them for judging others.

Oh and JT, I've never really bought anything on Beatport before. However, It is now one of my goals to be more conscience of what goods and services I put money into and to be a more Ethical Consumer. If I discover that it is Beatport's desire to further a homosexual agenda, it would influence how I might do business with them.

With all that being said, I love homosexuals just as Messiah loves them. I just don't love the agenda that some homosexuals have. It's a difficult line to walk with any sinner.
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« Reply #69 on: July 04, 2008, 05:25:30 AM »

Also how is this directly related to music only that it is from a music selling site but the thread is not related to music rather the Gay community and judgement on something that you shouldnt judge on.

I think that's a fairly narrow interpretation of the conversation here. At the heart is the ever present question: how are we to conduct ourselves, as Christians in a fallen world? How are we to be in the world and not of it?

Can we buy music from a company who endorses a sinful lifestyle? Does the company's support of an event that supports a sinful lifestyle ACTUALLY mean the company supports it as well? Does playing at an event that supports a sinful lifestyle mean that you support it as well? Even if you think you don't? Does it matter what other people think you support, independent from what you actually support?

I think that's a valid conversation piece for "THE website for Christians who love dance music."
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« Reply #70 on: July 04, 2008, 07:12:53 AM »

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« Reply #71 on: July 04, 2008, 08:21:17 AM »

Maybe I can't expect non-Christians to act like Christians...

Christianity is not about acting a certain way.  Its about realizing you have received the gift of Christ's perfect life in place of your own sinful one for no reason other than God loves you.  The only difference between you and everyone else, no matter what they are struggling with, is that God found you and decided to reveal Himself to you with the hope that you would receive what He was offering you.  I still struggle with trying to act a certain way, but that only places the attention on me.  Almost like if I act good, then I have earned the gift of salvation.  But if you think that you have to act a certain way to receive Gods blessing, you are essentially telling God that the brutal murder of his only Son wasn't good enough and that you have to insert some of your own "good" actions to finish the deal.  The fact is, if you believe Christ's life of perfection was made into sin and then He was resurrected 3 days later for your sake, then that is it.  Nothing you can do can separate you from God's promise over you.

That being said, if you find offense over someone else's sin, especially someone who doesnt know Christ in the first place, then you are essentially placing yourself above them when in reality you are standing right next to them in the same mud pit. 

Christ came that He could bring God's kingdom to earth in order to reclaim what satan is trying to take over.  We are all called to different things with that particular mission.  Some of us are called to reclaim the people in our office buildings for God.  Some of us are called to reclaim a club that has been handed over to darkness.  The fact is, we are fighting a spiritual battle.  That is why we live.  To glorify God and reclaim His kingdom.  If Shiloh are called by God to reclaim the gay pride parade one step at a time then so be it.  But never think that we are not called into dark places.  That is where the light is needed most.  And never put the way people may view you above where God is calling you to go. 

It may seem unwise to you to go to the parade simply because that is not where God wants YOU to go.

I think the first thing that needs to happen is for people to come back to a place of understanding that we are no better off than homosexuals, we just know something they dont.  And someone needs to tell them.

And why is it that homosexuality has become such a massive issue in the church???  its no worse of a sin than gluttony, pride, or gossip.  But you dont see people trying to pass laws on talking trash behind peoples backs.  Our focus as the church has shifted to showing people their problems, rather than the solution of allowing Christ to work everything out AFTER we have allowed him in.

 
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« Reply #72 on: July 04, 2008, 08:38:34 AM »

err on the side of being branded pro-sin?

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that's scary bro.  even Christ was branded pro sin by the pharisees.  If you are placing your reputation before the salvation of others that is very dagerous.
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« Reply #73 on: July 04, 2008, 08:45:41 AM »

 Lips Sealed I could re-quote everything you just said, Gabe.
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« Reply #74 on: July 04, 2008, 09:11:02 AM »

salt & light what?
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