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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2008, 11:30:21 AM »
I believe Jesus would be in the heart of that parade, wooing people to Him. But he wouldn't celeberate someone being gay-going against His created order.

If Shiloh is making a stand then why not be there?

There are talented people everywhere. Gay, Buddhist, Muslim, Mormon, Baptist, etc....The thing is we recognize who the Creator is. Who put that there.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2008, 11:38:33 AM »
Nicely put, Pat. I agree with your theology Smiley

Quote from: godlovesmaggots on July 02, 2008, 11:24:23 AM
In my mind at least, listening to, spinning, and/or producing music that in whatever measure got it's existence from the gay community is a lot different than actively participating in a parade that's primary, if not sole, purpose is the glorification of homosexuality.

Fair enough, thanks for explaining. I don't think it's so different, though I wouldn't say they're one and the same. My feelings lie alongside what Pat said.

I would do the gig. I wouldn't be glorifying homosexuality in my heart, and the outward appearance is for none other than God to judge anyway. Oh, God, and Rod, I mean. Wink
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2008, 11:51:56 AM »
Quote from: DJ Pat D on July 02, 2008, 11:30:21 AM
I believe Jesus would be in the heart of that parade, wooing people to Him. But he wouldn't celeberate someone being gay-going against His created order.

But isn't the point of the parade to celebrate that the people are gay?

Quote from: DJ Pat D on July 02, 2008, 11:30:21 AM
If Shiloh is making a stand then why not be there?

Is it a stand? While Jesus ate with publicans, he didn't participate in overtaxing the people.

Quote from: DJ Pat D on July 02, 2008, 11:30:21 AM
There are talented people everywhere. Gay, Buddhist, Muslim, Mormon, Baptist, etc....The thing is we recognize who the Creator is. Who put that there.

This sounds alarming like universalism. Recognizing who the Creator is (which I don't believe that all that you list there do) isn't enough:

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You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. James 1:19
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2008, 12:10:00 PM »
Quote from: godlovesmaggots on July 02, 2008, 11:51:56 AM
Quote from: DJ Pat D on July 02, 2008, 11:30:21 AM
I believe Jesus would be in the heart of that parade, wooing people to Him. But he wouldn't celeberate someone being gay-going against His created order.

But isn't the point of the parade to celebrate that the people are gay?

Quote from: DJ Pat D on July 02, 2008, 11:30:21 AM
If Shiloh is making a stand then why not be there?

Is it a stand? While Jesus ate with publicans, he didn't participate in overtaxing the people.

Quote from: DJ Pat D on July 02, 2008, 11:30:21 AM
There are talented people everywhere. Gay, Buddhist, Muslim, Mormon, Baptist, etc....The thing is we recognize who the Creator is. Who put that there.

This sounds alarming like universalism. Recognizing who the Creator is (which I don't believe that all that you list there do) isn't enough:

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You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. James 1:19
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2008, 12:13:10 PM »
that like saying hey everyone today is celebrate sin day! lets have a parade and everyone that comes is supporting sin. would Jesus be there? i don't think so. if the simple presence says i support whats going on here then you are supporting whats going on there!

even if you have a secret Christian decoder ring that you tell one gay guy about. to him your a Christian that thinks its ok to be gay...

otherwise why would you be there?   Huh
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2008, 12:16:10 PM »
Quote from: thepudd on July 02, 2008, 10:20:29 AM
Has Cornerstone even started yet? lol

I don't get Beatport's newsletters. But I wouldn't be especially bothered by it, if I did.

Quote from: Joel on July 02, 2008, 01:39:57 AM
so i take it you guys were really bothered when shiloh played in the parade last year?  or was it the year before?

Without homosexuals and their fine taste in music our industry wouldn't exist. That's a fact. Look up your dance music history.

house music started with gospel. SATAN likes to pervert and twist and steal anything that is good and thats is exactly what that gays have done with house music. not saying they have made "dirty music" per say its just they are using it to promote....



SIN!


homoesexuality=sin. period.

it saddens me to see that some of you don't agree with that part of the Bible though. its not very PC... hurt
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2008, 12:19:05 PM »
not even worth it pudd.  there's really no point with some of these guys.

screw it dude, let's go bowling.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2008, 12:19:33 PM »
Jesus was a friend of sinners. I am glad He is. I am glad He does. I am glad He was willing to eat with sinners. We want to be like Jesus, a friend of sinners.

Haven't each of us been the unwanted?

The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners" (Matthew 11:19, NIV).
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2008, 12:21:51 PM »
Quote from: noah on July 02, 2008, 12:19:05 PM
not even worth it pudd.  there's really no point with some of these guys.

Yup. Cuz iffins ya has pinions differnt than noah, yuze gotta be a moron.
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2008, 12:38:44 PM »
well, yes.
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2008, 12:39:42 PM »
a joke of course.  i didn't mean to infer such a conclusion, simply telling my friend it's not worth his time.
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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2008, 12:45:46 PM »
lol. John... that was lame. Noah's right to tell me it's not worth my time, because he knows I'll try and debate it. Anyway... I'm going to just say this.

I would rather err on the side of being branded pro-homosexuality, that I might have the opportunity to save a few, than err on the other side. I do not believe it is most important for a homosexual for know that I think what he/she is doing is sin. I believe that it IS most important for them to know that God, and God in me, loves them. I would rather the message of love come at the expense of the message of "what is sin and what isn't sin", than the other way around.

(I feel it's important to state, so that people don't quote me out of context, that love must be the key. Once love has opened the door for relationship with Jesus and his Father, then what is right and what is wrong can enter the conversation. I think that ordering is important, and I think the Western church is fundamentally unloving in it's "handling" of homosexuals... but I digress.)
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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2008, 12:48:22 PM »
Quote from: thepudd on July 02, 2008, 12:45:46 PM
lol. John... that was lame. Noah's right to tell me it's not worth my time, because he knows I'll try and debate it. Anyway... I'm going to just say this.

I would rather err on the side of being branded pro-homosexuality, that I might have the opportunity to save a few, than err on the other side. I do not believe it is most important for a homosexual for know that I think what he/she is doing is sin. I believe that it IS most important for them to know that God, and God in me, loves them. I would rather the message of love come at the expense of the message of "what is sin and what isn't sin", than the other way around.

(I feel it's important to state, so that people don't quote me out of context, that love must be the key. Once love has opened the door for relationship with Jesus and his Father, then what is right and what is wrong can enter the conversation. I think that ordering is important, and I think the Western church is fundamentally unloving in it's "handling" of homosexuals... but I digress.)
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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2008, 12:48:55 PM »
err on the side of being branded pro-sin?

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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2008, 12:50:40 PM »
I was going to ask if you read anything beyond that line... but I guess there's no point. Smiley
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