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Topic: How do you go from being an opener to a headliner? (Read 2366 times)
DJ Reborn
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Re: How do you go from being an opener to a headliner?
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Quote from: Oneel on May 12, 2008, 09:13:34 PM
Jimmy Joslin is frickin amazing!
I agree. Also a very cool dude. Very nice and down to earth. I knew him for months as "Jimmy" -- the guy who played rock music for nickel beer at Big Belly Brewery -- before I even found out he was Jimmy Joslin. When I found out he was
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Jimmy he seemed rather surprised I would be impressed by that.
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Re: How do you go from being an opener to a headliner?
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Quote from: Dave Richards on May 12, 2008, 09:15:48 PM
the first step to being that headliner is to believe that you can be and to exude that. I'm not talking ego, but I am talking about a professional attitude.
Confidence. The sort that can be seen by others, but not to the extent that it becomes arrogance. Just confidence.
An after thought: I was just thinking about AK1200. He's from the same suburb of Orlando I live in (Apopka). If you read a recent bio on him it might list his 'credentials' somewhere and will sometimes say something like: "Residency: No thanks." First time I saw that I thought to myself, "Yeah, easy for him to say." But it wasn't always like that for him. That guy, whom I have mad respect for as a DJ, started out spinning in the local mall. Yes, that's right, I said mall. As in shopping mall. How's that for a 'residency'? And he was spinning DnB when no one around here knew what that was. People outside the EDM scene still don't know what that is. My point is this: He started out small, but he married his genre, supported it, worked it, networked, and held down his residency--or whatever else it was he was working at/on at the time--with excellence. Now, I don't agree with the man's spiritual views, but he's got the humble thing down better than most Christians do, and that's a shame. It's worked to his benefit, too, as I'm sure you can tell. I bet there isn't a single DJ on this board who doesn't know who AK1200 is--now. A lot of headliners have devoted their lives to their craft (even if they are holding down a job or running a business "on the side", which many are). AK1200 is no overnight success. It took him years of really working hard, not just at DJing, but at networking and supporting a genre no one even seemed to know about at the time.
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Re: How do you go from being an opener to a headliner?
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May 13, 2008, 09:01:11 AM »
You also need to consider the correct frame of reference though. These guys you are talking about are extremely talented, and central florida was on fire for club music back then. Drum&bass wasn't huge, but everybody down there was in to hearing good djs in good venues. That era in that location provided a setting that launched a lot of careers. Im not convinced that "thing" is happening anymore. Oh, and AK1200 was a big-time remixer even in the 90's.
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Re: How do you go from being an opener to a headliner?
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May 13, 2008, 09:01:34 AM »
If you look at most successful headliners, they started out as awesome openers.
Keep opening. Be the best warmup dj out there. Set an atmosphere that sets up the headliner to succeed. Eventually headliners will request you to be their opener. As your name starts to spread around you will get your break.
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May 13, 2008, 10:20:37 AM »
Bill, I don't think that "thing" is happening anymore either. But doesn't that just reinforce the idea that to be a headliner it takes a lot of hard work. Even the guys who made it when the local scene was ripe had to work harder than everyone else did.
As for the "keep opening" advice -- I think that's it. All those headliners from the Cent FL area I've mentioned did that for a long time. And it wouldn't hurt if connected with a headliner and toured with them. That's what D:Fuse did. If it weren't for all the exposure he got opening for Oakenfold all over the place, most people who know him now never would have heard of him. I first heard of D:Fuse by going to see Oakey during Spring Break at Daytona (600 North -- ah the good old days, lol). I've seen him more times than just about any other DJ now--plus I bought his CD when it came out and even have a couple of his tracks on vinyl. All because he kept on opening.
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May 13, 2008, 11:51:11 AM »
Ive been warming up for people for ages - im only now getting the headline bookings : )
for some reason ive always found the challenge of warming up more interesting.............
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Re: How do you go from being an opener to a headliner?
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May 13, 2008, 01:32:44 PM »
While I'm thinking about it... what does it mean to headline?
Is it something consistent or just every now and then.
Kenneth Thomas is an opener, but sometime he headlines.
Oakenfold will never open again... or will he? I haven't seen his schedule lately.
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May 13, 2008, 01:49:54 PM »
the other question...
why do you want to be a headliner?
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May 13, 2008, 02:07:29 PM »
While you're at it, Dave, what about:
What caliber event?
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Its DJ Reborn Hi from Reborn hahaha
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Dave,
I think Chris has dreams of being the "superstar dj".
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May 13, 2008, 04:00:23 PM »
The ONLY way to become a headliner is by opening.....Unless it's your event and you don't care about making money...LOL!
The story about AK1200 reminds me of D:Fuse...He started as a mobile DJ...In fact, Dustin Fuseler was nationally respected for being a high quality interactive wedding DJ way before he gained any success as D:Fuse.
Every time I think about Jimmy Joslin though...I'm reminded of this one time at Vinyl in Huntsville, AL. it was the owner's, Danny C, birthday. Jimmy and I were standing in the DJ booth with Danny, pouring vodka into people standing below the booth mouths. Fun times!
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Quote from: Oneel on May 13, 2008, 04:00:23 PM
The ONLY way to become a headliner is by opening.....
I've been getting to know alot of djs around vancouver here, and so many of them have been openers for life, ie 10 years running. they're motivated and amazing djs, but because they're good opening djs they dont get booked for anything else. so i agree with your statement to a point, i just don't think its the only equation in the book.
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Re: How do you go from being an opener to a headliner?
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May 13, 2008, 06:06:18 PM »
another thing to think over is making sure that you have the crowd really bouncing when you had over the reigns. that way the promoters know that you can get the crowd going.
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May 13, 2008, 06:50:58 PM »
Joel...I'd say they either lack that "something" it takes to make that step, or they lack the drive it takes to jump to the next level. Everyone who's become a major DJ has spent a significant amount of time opening. It's just the proper way to hone one's craft. Opening is WAYYY more difficult than headlining.
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