wake up call for EVERYONE here and at the UK boards
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« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2005, 11:33:41 AM »

godf: there's nothing inherently evil in discussing & debating things.  Smiley

this is about FOCUS and BALANCE

we need to FOCUS on the things that really matter,especially when it pertains to what our goals as a community of christians who like dance music are.   that's what this board is meant to be about.

we need to have BALANCE in our discussions as well.  (and in life..if ever there was a biblical concept it's balance).  we absolutely have to stop "majoring in the minors"(the minor things).    at present, we're an extremely 'lopsided'  board.  worried more about dubm stuff than about christians involved in the dance scene.

and that's what this board is meant for.   this used to be a repository of knowledge and wisdom for christians across the world.  now (through no fault of the owner) has becoming a semi-lame chat board to shoot the breeze on that not many people come to.
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« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2005, 01:16:14 PM »

No doubt it's tricky to run and administer a site like this with a popular forum.  I can see the owner becoming discouraged over people saying things that he may not agree with- especially spiritually and politically.  I can also see him worrying about "are other denominations gonna get the wrong idea of this site or my own personal theological views if I allow such discussions"?  "What if my own pastor goes to my site (Tasty Fresh) and sees all these crazy discussions about things that I do not condone or believe in?"  I can understand the concern.  Here's where a "disclaimer" comes in handy. 

You can specifically say in your own words something to the effect of:

"Welcome to the TF Forum.  While the views expressed on this board may not directly reflect the site administrator/owner/curator of Tasty Fresh, healthy discussion of all things dance and non-dance related are encouraged.  Please respect the moderators and know that any unruley lashing out on anyone for any reason (ie- with those who may not agree with your theology or politics) will not be tolerated and may result in a permanent ban."

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« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2005, 03:35:34 AM »

Hi, On and off over many years I have been a member on tasty and mainly look at the DJ,and productions threads and personally dont care for politics in any form I get enough of that at church being Vicar's fiance however part of this thread suggests that UKTFer's was formed as a result of political divides, I accept that some peple do only post there because of previous problems on political issues here but the board was set because THE UK THREAD HERE WAS BEING REMOVED so the UK people wanted space to network the UK stuff and not out of any misguided political problems. I post occaisionally on both

I know I shouted in this thread apologies but needed to make sure the point of my thread was s amoungst my waffle  Wink
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« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2005, 07:30:37 AM »

The core UKers DID leave over political including Guy who started the board. Yes, the removal of the UK board was  a factor, but that was prompted b/c of the political and spiritual discusses being held there and the lack of interaction between the Ukers and the larger site.

All of the are welcome back so long as they can follow the rules of the site. None of them were banned permanently.

I just wanted to clarify what you said MrH.

I really do want to move past these issues.
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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2005, 09:21:31 AM »

I don't really want to get into this too far, but since Davo has pointed me here, here I am.

I would like to clarify - speaking purely for myself - that I did not cease to frequent TF  because of 'politics', but out of respect for Dave's intention and desire that TF should develop in a certain way.  This was not a direction which was broad enough for my particular needs in online discussion, since my music engages heavily with issues of life and culture which are not permissible to speak about here. 

Rather than wanting TF to be something it was not going to be I concluded it was better to cease hanging round causing problems for those for whom problems were caused, and do something else instead.

Guy started the UK boards purely on his own initiative, and I hang out there mainly because my friends are there, we can talk seriously about anything and goof around (quite a lot). 

If you want to read a slightly fuller reply to Davo's OP you can do so here http://uktfers.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=music&action=display&thread=1117824071

In this I say why I still don't think it wouldn't work for me to spend too much time here under the present forum guidelines,  which I respect as the way chosen by this community, even though I cannot prosper within them.

Blessing to all who are trying to find a way forward in what you are doing in a broader sense.  I don't feel I am really qualified to comment on your very interestign discussions elsewhere because I am working in a very different field (Dub and Roots reggae) to most of you, and with a different philosphy of approach, probably.

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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2005, 10:10:42 AM »

Redsaviour,

Just to say I have read your post,

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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2005, 02:30:55 PM »

i don't understand why this was moved to the new groove fellowship boards

i've stated time and time again that i don't understand the point of a "christian rave", or now called a "groove fellowship" i guess, other than for worship or strictly a fellowship thing

go out into the darkness and be lights, or go be a light amongst lights and try to get the darkness to come to the light...

maybe i'm just not getting it or something, feel free to school me anyone...thanks
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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2005, 02:33:10 PM »

i will, however, do everything i can to attend a groove fellowship at least once...it just never worked out when they were happening a couple years ago and i did allways want to go, purely for the fellowship part

i'm not trying to be difficult with my above post, i'm just trying to understand the reasoning...i probably should've modified my post above rather than starting a new one....
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2005, 02:34:46 PM »

i think the "groove fellowship" idea is more getting people conected localy and physicaly, removing most of the  layers of TCP/IP from the relationship interface.
ya, dig?


like getting off the internet, going outside, and doing somthing.
(even though that kind of thing is a dangerus move)

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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2005, 02:35:20 PM »

Nate, the point is not to do a xian rave/party. It's to hang out and determine HOW to be be a light in the secular world and develop plans to do so. This was moved here b/c the call for unity, forgiveness, and new beginings has to happen before we can do that.
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« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2005, 02:49:30 PM »

red's post wasn't there when i replied

thanks for explaing red

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« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2005, 02:51:26 PM »

Believe me nate, I KNOW what your concern is. You should really read through some of the background discussion.
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« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2005, 02:53:33 PM »

work is extremely slow, i'll read through some of it today
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« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2005, 10:47:42 AM »

i don't understand why this was moved to the new groove fellowship boards

i've stated time and time again that i don't understand the point of a "christian rave", or now called a "groove fellowship" i guess, other than for worship or strictly a fellowship thing

go out into the darkness and be lights, or go be a light amongst lights and try to get the darkness to come to the light...

maybe i'm just not getting it or something, feel free to school me anyone...thanks

please don't start this debate again....let's all just do what we're called to do, OK?
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« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2005, 01:14:34 PM »

davo:

i am not the type to sit by idle and not speak up, i'm sorry that you don't like my questions, but as long as i have some i am going to ask unless it becomes against the rules to question things or something

anyhow

i read through a lot of the info and i think it's a great thing and i look forward to being a part of it
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