The thing I've been called by God to do is try to raise the bar of professionalism among christians. whether that's through the record label,doing dj worship, or going so far as to lovingly confront the youth pastor at our church it seems God places me in these situations for a reason.

it's time for everyone to WAKE UP out of their halfa**ed slumber and get back to what God has called them to do. no more excuses about how you don't have the time to throw the event God as called you to throw,or you can't drive 30 min. to a CHRISTIAN event to suppor your fellow christian brothers.   no more excuses. PERIOD.

i also know He's called ALL OF US to be humble and to be in fellowship with other believers.

from another thread i posted on....

i can argue minutia all i want at theology web. but i CAN'T get a fellowship of believers who love dance music...apparently i can't get that anywhere any more.  because of stupid, petty bickering.
       it's got to stop. now.  SOMEONE needs to stand up and be the bigger man and FORGIVE.  that means treating the person (people) like they never sinned in the first place.  that IS in the bible, you know....

yes, im' talking about reds,vince,louis,godf,and myself. i'm talking guy cross,josti,carey, and talking dog. im' talking tolldog,pacific mile,and the gang at myx records.  i'm talking steve christopher,mark crosby, and jeremy dawson.  im' talking dyvyne,shana gray and dj lorraine. im talking luke at tranceform productions,organic paradox, and crosstronic.  how about blake potter,PREZ,steve from rubix, timo rosendal,sid 07?   where's djkevinpaul, tronster,tridax,and trancelott?


i know some people have moved on..but who's fault is that? OURS for not being as welcoming and willing to listen.  it's OURS for not providing a welcoming,safe place that is also professional.
whatever anyone has against ANYONE else, let it go!  let's get back to our mission here....it's about JESUS. and it's about that we love dance music.

That's all I've been asking for... even if I fall short of it Davo. Until we move on, we can't move on.

i kinda touched on this in my most recent post in another thread. what jesse is doing is a perfect example of the home base idea. we have to have people praying. i have seen jesse over and over saying i will pray and how did this or that work out? unity is number 2 after determining Gods will for us. but unity may be needed before we can determine Gods will. .. hum..

Just to clear the air, I don't have any problems or hard feelings with Josti.

In fact as far as I know the only folks I have any issues with are Reds, Bill, and PK.  If there is someone else who has an issue with me then please contact me at Dancechapel@yahoo.com because I really don't know of anyone else.

I'm already talking with Reds via PM to try and work through things, and Bill is tied into that same situation.

I don't mean to insult either one of those guys by grouping them with PK, and they are nothing like him.  As far as he goes, I am trying hard just to forgive him and move on, and honestly most days I really don't think or talk about him or all that stuff anymore so I think I am succeeding.

Anyway I appreciate what you've said Davo, and I am working on it.

Man I must be dense! I didn't know there was this much dissent. Carey having issues? With Reds?

I think I will just continue to pray. I don't base my relationships with people on their politics or their musical taste. I mean I have friends who seriously love trance!! When we all know that house rules!

Seriously, you get my drift. Didn't know Reds was the only conserative at a Baptist place, thought they were all neo cons!

I recognize that this is trite and cliched' but as long as I look for the activity of Jesus in a person I can get around the other things that I might not like. '

You know what I mean, the loving care and concern that goes with actually following the Savior not just makeing sure you believe all the right things? ( Davo you mentioned not too much discussion abut Jesus on Guy's board, well you might hunt that thread up and resurrect it. Lot of talk there)

It seems that too often brother and sisters get caught up n the thought that we all have to agree before we can be family or fellowship. NOt really, we all just have to have a comomon savior. I fellowship with a ot of Catholics, Methodists, Even other Baptists, and we DO NOT agree on doctrine but we do agree on the place of Jesus in our lives and the life He called us to live.

Well enough of that, switch off rant mode, got to go and gt ready tp preach two services this morning. I continue to pray for TF because I believe in what it does and becauze I love the peope here. Will continue todoso until the Father tels me to move along. Blessing on all of you,

Peace

I'm not sure that political debates directly damage the progression of christian dance music all that much.

But seeing as political commentry isn't meant to be allowed, it shouldn't really be an issue, and rarely is anymore.

It seems that certain people are very interested in using tf to push foreward christian dance music... where as others see it more as a forum for people who share an interest in christian dance music, (or who are christians and share an interest in dance music) to meet, socialise and discus various issues.  The recent re-vamp was seen as a reassertion of the former over the later, but really, I don't see why there's any conflict between the two.  There are plenty of regular posters here with little interest in production/promotion/djing (at least in any sort of professional sense), and their contributions certainly aren't damaging to the primary aim of tf, even if they aren't directly contributing to it.

Anyway, that's how I see things as a semi-outsider anyway.

Thats alright Nate!!! That is not a terminal condition, YOu will recover!

Yup. Scott and I will NEVER agree politically (on a great deal of things), but I accept him as a brother in Christ who is vital and important to God. He is a man who knows how to show humility and can still well... tear my head off when I'm wrong. The site is better for him being here. Besides, we need at least one Catholic here