In the early years of Christian Dance Music the majority feeling was that if you weren't on a Christian Label or making Christian Music, or only listening to Christian Music you were a "dirty rotten sinner."

That was WRONG.

It's not wrong to make art targeted at Christians, but it was wrong to make everyone believe if you were doing it any other way you were in sin.

Since we've had people like Joel and Shiloh who have went out and made their mark in the world and made a difference, which rocks!

Now that most people understand that's a good thing, the majority thought seems to be that making music targeted at Christians is a "waste of time, holding the scene back, creating a Christian Ghetto", etc etc etc

They're just as wrong as the "dirty rotten sinner" gang from years past!

(Although they may be a little nicer about it.)

That was my point though. We're lacking in areas that we shouldn't be.


Agreed, but for some reason we can't agree on what that would look like. The issue that constantly comes up is the quality one. If we could do BOTH with the same quality, the dynamics of this argument would quickly change I think.


They have one of the most professional shows I've seen targeted at Christians. I may not like all the music they feel led to play, but they have the production down. I'd just really love to see a bit more variety/quality in the music they play.


The thing that rocks about Shiloh, Stryke, Joel and others is that they are not separating themselves from Christians. They aren't drawn heavily into this division that we're debating here. They simply do what they are led to do.

That's an example.

Church. Really good churches, that's what we need.

Then artists can be supported in both worship during church gatherings AND in music outside church gatherings.

Two of my good friends here in community group in my church are in a band, Decree and have been awarded a recording contract or something like that. Anyway, Serge from Kasabian called them good at a "secular" gig, but they still play in church. We also have a D'N'B producer in church (http://www.photogenetic.co.uk/) whose label has got a beat-boxer who has gone on Big Brother's Little Bro for the theme. They're doing well.

I see people talking about Christ here which is all well and good, but it's time we did what our 'husband' says, and as we live our lives go and make disciples. No more hit-and-run-and-hope. Please.  Let's build relationship and disciple people in the scene, not judging them as that's God's job. There are no secular or Christian scenes. Jesus is over everything, even if his name isn't praised by everyone.

I'm so glad its Jesus working in me and not me because we're not the answer in ourselves. He is.

we ultimately keep coming back to the same solution we always do:

write better music than anyone else and people will pay attention