So you're thinking of submitting a demo for Cornerstone 2008.....
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« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2007, 09:34:28 AM »

See! That's good pay. It will be enough to buy 2.5 gallons of gas next summer!
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2007, 05:56:30 AM »

I'll pay YOU to have the opportunity to play in the barn!   Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2007, 11:10:23 AM »

and NOW we're really getting to the point. I accept visa through paypal.com.
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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2007, 08:15:13 PM »

and NOW we're really getting to the point. I accept visa through paypal.com.

LOL, so bribes are taken. laugh j/k.

I'm going to put a demo together also next month or so.  I've been in a haze past september and some of october.
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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2007, 08:20:39 PM »

no man... that's not a bribe. I'm thinking about just moving it to the N*Soul model of pay for play. Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2007, 08:21:43 PM »

no man... that's not a bribe. I'm thinking about just moving it to the N*Soul model of pay for play. Smiley


eh..
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« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2007, 07:32:29 PM »

I'll make your set awesome for free!

.....well.....free tickets never hurt either  Tongue
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« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2007, 10:00:58 PM »

no man... that's not a bribe. I'm thinking about just moving it to the N*Soul model of pay for play. Smiley


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so... oneel...If I actually submit a demo and you pick it.... can you just strap me to the hood of your car for the ride up to C-stone ?   hug
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« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2007, 09:27:54 AM »

The hood might be askin' too much. How about a skateboard and rope?
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« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2007, 10:03:32 AM »

The hood might be askin' too much. How about a skateboard and rope?

alright, street boardin', can we get one of those boards with the bigger wheels?
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« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2007, 10:10:17 AM »

you get the rope and the board. Oneel will get the car.
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« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2007, 10:15:55 AM »

sweet.

serious note, may have to bum a ride to CStone, cause I'm gonna save up for this year.  But truck isn't travel worthy yet and dad will need the suburban probably, unless he has another car by then.
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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2007, 08:00:50 AM »

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They gradually work through different phases of a dancefloor,  having the place ready to rock by the time the headliner comes on,  but not actually blowing the place up.

Philosophical discussion here...

I agree with that statement for clubs.  One-room clubs, specifically.

However, I've noticed that for multi-room clubs and festival situations... that doesn't fly so much.  People will wander in when they hear something they like, and instantly wander out the second they lose interest. 

...Which is why trance is so devastating to an untrained dancefloor.  It's all fun and games until the Epic Breakdown...

Crowd: < smiley23  smiley25>

30 seconds later... it's just starting to come back up, but...

Crowd:

Now, I'm not saying that openers need to crank out the big anthems for  their sets -- or that trance nights at festivals are bad.  Tongue

I'm saying that asking for Jerry Bonham and Evil 9 sets may backfire when the night comes.

Shoot, I distinctly remember seeing Tiesto clear the floor his first breakdown.  People were getting completely into it, progressive and all, and then the breakdown hit, and "Oh, yeah, I can hear Busta Rhymes playing on the other stage."

Exodus.

Is there something different about the Cornerstone night that makes it different?  The most successful opening DJ set in that environment I've ever seen was Dieselboy (at the same event Tiesto mucked up).  He grabbed 90% of the people at the festival just by keeping the subwoofers constantly quiverring and by having an extremely good MC to literally explain what was happening when the rumblies ceased.

Especially at a rock concert, shouldn't the idea be, within the constraints of not stepping on the headliner's toes, to inventively hold peoples' attention as much as possible?
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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2007, 09:41:31 AM »

Is there something different about the Cornerstone night that makes it different?

It's really closer to the one room club situation. People may walk outside, but they are still at the door and that isn't the majority of people there either. Seriously. Most of the people who hung outside the barn this year were the guys running the show and other DJs who needed a break or were working. If portions of the crowd left, it was to go to a different stage to catch their next act.

The Epic Breakdown should be banned from Cstone, but not just because the crowd is mostly uneducated. That just adds to it. There really just needs to be a constant driving beat there. It begs for it. It's an energy and vibe level issues.

Especially at a rock concert, shouldn't the idea be, within the constraints of not stepping on the headliner's toes, to inventively hold peoples' attention as much as possible?

Right. We want to pair the best opening DJ up with the best headliner. The idea is to craft a night, a total experience. It's not to just keep people in the room. We want the opener to feed the crowd gradually into the headliner. He's not a time filler, he's a stage setter. If he sets the stage poorly, people leave. If he shows up the headline (like Doug did this year), the room will clear when the headliner takes over.
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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2007, 05:29:03 PM »

If he shows up the headline (like Doug did this year), the room will clear when the headliner takes over.


pretty funny Dave.  If kenneth comes back this year he will better understand what actualy hits there.


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