Stage Diving is too fun.  I personaly dont think that thier is anything wrong with it at a Concert or at a teen Worship Service.  At a normal sunday or sat. service I dont think that is is right place for it.  Their are all kinds of Chruchs though- very liberal to  conservative Chruchs that are very  tridational.  So I think that their are plenty of Chruchs to chose from if you dont like a Liberal Chruch you can go to a conservative one.  I think that we spend too much time talking about things that may not hold eternal value.  The only diff. from when I used to go to punk shows their was always this unwriten code that if someone fell you would help them up. All the shows that we went to people would not scatter if you jumped out into the aud.  Yeah you had to worrie about nazi skins but their are bad people everwhere. I have heard the shows today are not the same as they used to be.  So now the only diff. is that I'm saved and I know Jesus as my savior.  So when I used to mosh and stage dive it was just for fun.  Now it's for fun but it sets my mind free from this world and helps me to focus on Jesus.  I think the people that said a time and place for it are right.  My 2 cents.

Yeah... I'm wondering why this hasn't gotten shut down yet... I guess it's actually on-topic (or relevant).

to use the almost over used example of David...

The Bible says he danced in his underwear LEAPING and DANCING in front of EVERYONE.  That's pretty crazy and chaotic.  After that part of his thankfulness and worship to God he fed everyone in Israel, he didn't get that from Leviticus or a manual of worship.  And the one person who said that what he did was wrong was cursed by God to be barren.  Obviously saying what's right and wrong forms of worship is not something God appreciates.

I mean when we look to the Psalms for descriptions of worship we see many forms of LOUD praise and worship... Just reading Psalms 150 tells us to praise God with the trumpets, cymbals, clanging cymbals, and crashing cymbals. 

Or how about Acts 2??  That sounds like it was pretty CHAOTIC.  The people there thought they were drunk, obviously they weren't being quiet and reserved.  They were acting like lunatics! 

or even further look at the description of Worship in Revelation (Rev 19:1-8)

"After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting"  Not just singing loudly, but shouting... so many descriptions of worship include shouting...  I'm sorry but I don't see anywhere in the Bible where God puts a specific style of Worship down saying that way is wrong.  Man looks on the outside but God looks at the heart.  He only cares about where our hearts are.  If I play the harp so beautifully and I say it's my worship to God but I really only do it because I want to show everyone else how great at the harp I am, it disgusts God.  If I am mocking in my worship then that would disgust God too... but if I let out a "charismatic pentecostal" shout because I can't believe how God great God has been in my life and can't contain it anymore, I don't believe God would consider that sin.  Or if I am so overcome with joy that I start jumping up and down or dancing during worship then I don't think I would need to repent. 

I think what so many of us need to stop doing is legalizing or illegalizing forms of worship and instead focus on the hearts of people.  How crazy do you think the blind man the beggars must've seemed to the disciples and followers of Jesus but did Jesus ever say, "Hey! Don't let him call out to me like that! He should have instead asked John's permission first to speak to me and then waited his turn." 

"Then they came to Jericho. As Jesus and his disciples, together with a large crowd, were leaving the city, a blind man, Bartimaeus (that is, the Son of Timaeus), was sitting by the roadside begging. When he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to shout, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!"

 Many rebuked him and told him to be quiet, but he shouted all the more, "Son of David, have mercy on me!"

 Jesus stopped and said, "Call him." So they called to the blind man, "Cheer up! On your feet! He's calling you." Throwing his cloak aside, he jumped to his feet and came to Jesus.

 "What do you want me to do for you?" Jesus asked him.
      The blind man said, "Rabbi, I want to see."

 "Go," said Jesus, "your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road." -Mark 10:46-52

I think we need to be very careful to judge one form of worship against another, the attitudes of many who judge people's behaviors in church is reflected in this passage.  They thought that Bartimaeus should just sit down on the side of the road be unnoticable they rebuked him and reflected an almost disgust with him that he should dare to bother Jesus.  Until Jesus said to call him to him.  Then suddenly they were like, "Wow! Bartimaeus today is your lucky day!"  In the same way we should not just say that's wrong that's right.  Instead why don't we just concern ourselves with the people just as Jesus was concerned with the people. The only time I can recall Jesus ever rebuking someone was when the religious sects would come around or if people were keeping people away from him. 

I was more saying that we shouldn't go around saying that what others are doing as worship is sin. 

Absolutely not.  That is the problem the Emerging Church movement is creating, rather recreating because it was started a long time ago by this group called.......um.....hippies.

stoopid hippies