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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2007, 01:23:28 PM »

I don't think the CG is very obvious at all, it's just that I think it's really silly if it was real. Because of the type of footage.

Though it's fascinating; I'm reading the space trilogy by Lewis at the moment  Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2007, 02:49:30 PM »

dude if it were real it would have been all over Art Bell ... not to mention there would have been a huge drop in the Haitian cat population:



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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2007, 03:09:59 PM »

So when someone says God does not exist....how is your statement different?

Not going there.  This is not a religious discussion board.

First of all, it's not real because if it were there would be ACCREDITED news sources showing this footage.  Not a bunch of alien fans blowing smoke about how hard it would be to fake.

Secondly, if UFOs/Aliens were real we'd have a crapton more real evidence than crappy videos and photos.  There would be all kinds of stuff on NASA and SETI about it.  Imagine how many images we've shot with the hubble telescope.  Ever seen an alien in those pics?  Ever seen a UFO in those pics?  NO.  Why?  Because they aren't real.  Aliens don't turn invisible on the way here and you better beleive we'd have seen 'em coming way in advance consdidering all the space monitoring we do.  We've seen asteroids and comets coming months and almost years in advance.... but we can't see UFOs coming?  Get real, dude.

No accredited evidence at all.  None.  Zero.


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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2007, 04:00:14 PM »

here you go nate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pawTzpNKW4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9runNgtTb0
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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2007, 04:53:03 PM »

Oh, I must have forgotten that youtube is a creditable source for information. 

Fist video looks like a storm on a planet surface.  You trying to say that aliens were attacking a dead planet or something?  Come on.

The second one is EASILY faked.  Heck, any producer on here could make a voice recording.  Sorry, no dice.

Third one is just as worthless.  Ancient video footage of... pretty much nothing.
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2007, 05:25:56 PM »

this thread really seems to have hit a chord with you
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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2007, 06:11:43 PM »

Hardly.  I just hope that some of you who think this crap is real will take a second and think about it.  It's not real.  There is no government cover up.  I have a DoD security clearance and I've seen some cool stuff... but aliens?  No.
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2007, 06:29:51 PM »

i personally do not believe that roswell from all i have read and watched was a ship from this planet.

i also believe their are others living other places in non-heaven and non-hell locations in our current existance.


God is huge...why do we have to believe that this earth is it.  Maybe God so loved the world...(interpretation of that not meaning this globe) that he sent his son... maybe that was done multiple times or it happened once in many dimensions.  maybe we are only one world in many worlds.

Nathan...i understand your passion saying UFOs dont exist...there is evidence...albiet very little that something is out there.  There is a moon rotating a planet...forgot the name that currently has a body of ice that had movement at one time...ie life of some sort.


say what you will and say what I will.  We do not know.
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2007, 06:47:13 PM »

Nate...I agree with you. I really do. I think it's ridiculous that there's no news agencies running with this if it were real...and where are the other Haitians and Dominicans that saw this? There are other voices on the video near the end...where's their stories?


But my point is you can't unequivocally say that ALIENS DO NOT EXIST unless you can show me in Gods good book where it says "..but God didn't want to create ANYTHING with life besides earth..."
While I (like you) am convinced that there isn't alien life out there, ultimately that's the only proof that could ever convince ME enough to make a black and white statement as you have. Thats all. I'm not a believer in aliens.  But this is likely NOT an amateur CGI job. More likely Hollywood backed. But...if it IS real...at least I don't have to eat crow because I won't paint myself into that corner as you have.
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2007, 06:53:06 PM »

Ice doesn't mean life.

Do you guys seriously think anything so technologically advanced could exist anywhere near us without us knowing?

Let's say for a moment aliens exist and turn invisible to keep us from seeing them.  How can they do this without using vast amounts of energy, making sound, creating electromagnetic pulses, magnetic fields, or leaving behind some/any kind of debris or waste of some kind?  We'd have seen it in SETI, with the Hubble, or other means.

That's like believing that Bhudda is still alive and well, but has become so powerful he walks the earth as an undetectable living spirit that is impossible to see, hear, feel, taste, touch or in any other way sense the presence of....and believing such because it can't be proven wrong.  You're saying Schrödinger's cat is alive simply because it's not possible to prove otherwise.  The same kind of ideals keep people believing in evolution.  It's only a valid theory because we can't prove it to be wrong.
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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2007, 06:55:39 PM »

I will gladly 'paint myself into a corner' as you put it on an issue like this one.

Aliens do not exist.  All known UFO sightings are misunderstandings, unknown craft of human origin, or faked/lied about.  The government is making some cool flying crap the public doesn't know about.  If you saw it you'd think it was alien because it's so different.  However.... it's no alien.  Aliens aren't real.
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2007, 06:58:38 PM »


It's only a valid theory because we can't prove it to be wrong.


like i said exactly Cool
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2007, 07:01:14 PM »

read the original hebrew in the text of the bible and then read some greek in the NT.  You will hear many people talk about the worlds rather than the world.  Lotta pastors and religious leaders blow this off as they just feel focused on whats going on here on planet earth... that is fine.

I am not saying life exists out there.  Just saying it is not conclusive


i said my peace and im done here...lest this debate turns biblical with references and also God talk...that is not allowed on this site

bowing out of this....


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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2007, 10:45:55 PM »

If youre serious about the search for truth nate, then you need to read this book http://www.reasons.org/shop/customer/product.php?productid=350
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« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2007, 11:13:24 PM »

Not interested.  No references.  No citations.  No real info.
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