hahahaha yessssssssssssss

that horse looks more like a whale.

BTW, until I can smell it... I'm still gonna beat it

well... like I said a LONG time ago... I think the definition of beatmatching is simply changing.

technology changes and with that so do definitions at times.

I think YOU're missing my point, but that's fine.

If beatmatching actually does disappear, what ableton does will be very much like what the next generation (or the one after that) of DJs will *think*/ call beatmatching.

And the point you make about culture only backs up my point. Culture actually changes faster than definitions. As soon as one generation dies or retires, so does a definition.

It wasn't THAT long ago that bad actually meant bad, gay meant happy and queer meant odd. What happened was a cultural change in the way they defined the word.

I'm not going to say that warping in ableton is 100% equal to traditional beatmatching. What I will assert is that the concepts are extremely similar and maybe as soon as 5 - 10 years from now, the concept of traditional beatmatching will be completely lost and replaced by various other technologies like warping.

Traditional typesetting used to be done by arranging led blocks on a printing press. Years later, phototype was introduced and typesetting became based on a photography process that didn't look anything like the traditional method. Then... the computer stepped in and now everyone can set type however they like with more freedom than ever in the comfort of their own bedrooms. It's still all typesetting because in the end, you are still setting type.

The same is true here. The technology is changing. It's allowing more flexibility. It may take LESS talent and effort, but it is still doing the same process of allowing someone to synch two different pieces of music together seemlessly.

Like it or not, the definition of beatmatching is changing and time, technology, and culture will be the driving force.

Don't think our culture will change? Want more proof? Just a few years ago, nobody wanted to spin on CDs. Then, that changed. Then, in the last couple of years, nobody wanted CDs anymore. They actually wanted MP3s. Vinyl was thought to be the cultural visual and performance anchor of our culture and that is now dead. Our culture changes as such, so will our definitions.

Laugh and argue with me now, but the next generation will be calling beatsynching beatmatching and you will continue to get upset over it

Well, from this I would guess that it didn't actually work out.


Oh, and if you warp a track on the fly you'd better hope there's no tempo drift since you won't be able to beatmatch to correct it (unless it's the only track playing in Ableton).

I think traditional ( 2x 1200'2) will always be, and become more of an art than a prodcut, in the same way traditional drawing is still around depite all the computer based programs that mimic the hand...and so on...outboard keyboards vs soft synths...I think in 5 years there will be more hype about the guy that still spins the decks than the laptop masses...me included.  it will be unique!!  that is my buck fifty..

cheers

Wil Foster