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« Reply #105 on: July 11, 2007, 07:53:39 PM »
Quote from: Ethan Bliss on July 11, 2007, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: Oneel on July 11, 2007, 02:33:19 PM
You can drift tempos in Ableton,  but it's a real pain in the Equus asinus

Yeah, I know you can; my point was just that you can't do it quickly enough to catch it on the fly, and if you don't mark the track correctly, you can't correct for it while it's playing if other things are running in Ableton, although I think it might be possible to do something like that if you have some controller mapped to the master tempo while something else is going.

You can correct mis-marked tracks while abletons playing, but it's a Bad idea.
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« Reply #106 on: July 11, 2007, 09:48:26 PM »
actually, all you would need to fix that (and I'm sure this will be in some future version of ableton) is a true pitch bending tool that can effect just one channel/track.

The other trick is... don't set too many warp markers. If it's a well mastered 4 on the floor beat, then you should only need a starting warp marker and you can adjust live from there.
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« Reply #107 on: July 12, 2007, 09:06:49 AM »
BTW, I was checking out my Ableton Power book last night. It actually taught warping as beat matching and explained why it is.
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« Reply #108 on: July 12, 2007, 09:46:00 AM »
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« Reply #109 on: July 12, 2007, 11:06:20 AM »
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« Reply #110 on: July 12, 2007, 02:23:24 PM »
Quote from: Dave Richards on July 11, 2007, 09:48:26 PM
actually, all you would need to fix that (and I'm sure this will be in some future version of ableton) is a true pitch bending tool that can effect just one channel/track.

The other trick is... don't set too many warp markers. If it's a well mastered 4 on the floor beat, then you should only need a starting warp marker and you can adjust live from there.

Yeah, but a few of mine are vinyl rips, and my turntables are far less reliable than techs.
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« Reply #111 on: July 12, 2007, 02:26:52 PM »
well... head to beatport and see if it's been rereleased. A lot of it has been.
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« Reply #112 on: July 12, 2007, 02:59:48 PM »
Quote from: adidax on July 12, 2007, 02:23:24 PM
Quote from: Dave Richards on July 11, 2007, 09:48:26 PM
actually, all you would need to fix that (and I'm sure this will be in some future version of ableton) is a true pitch bending tool that can effect just one channel/track.

The other trick is... don't set too many warp markers. If it's a well mastered 4 on the floor beat, then you should only need a starting warp marker and you can adjust live from there.

Yeah, but a few of mine are vinyl rips, and my turntables are far less reliable than techs.

Even Techs don't keep perfectly consistent speed (although it takes a while for it to drift); I was using vinyl rips in GDAM before I finally bought my second 1210. And of course if you want to try mixing in or sampling any old disco (or probably anything else of that vintage) you're not going to get anywhere close to a consistent tempo; I'm sure it was a great boon the art of DJ'ing (or at least mixing) when people started using sequencers for recording. Tongue
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« Reply #113 on: July 12, 2007, 03:46:27 PM »
Quote from: Dave Richards on July 12, 2007, 02:26:52 PM
well... head to beatport and see if it's been rereleased. A lot of it has been.

I don't want to pay for it again, especally when the originals cost between $8 and $12
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« Reply #114 on: July 12, 2007, 04:09:14 PM »
Quote from: adidax on July 12, 2007, 03:46:27 PM
Quote from: Dave Richards on July 12, 2007, 02:26:52 PM
well... head to beatport and see if it's been rereleased. A lot of it has been.

I don't want to pay for it again, especally when the originals cost between $8 and $12

Not mention that with backcatalog releases you never know for sure if it's from a digital master so you could potentially end up with some drift anyway.
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« Reply #115 on: July 12, 2007, 04:25:49 PM »
eh... if it's ONE mix of ONE track that you really want and it's $1.49 or less, I'd buy it again. Seriously.
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« Reply #116 on: July 12, 2007, 08:01:40 PM »
well, beatport doesn't have most of the stuff; so i have to get it from track it down or something, and they're about $2 a pop or so.
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« Reply #117 on: July 13, 2007, 12:47:26 AM »
Just bought the latest mixmag with a 1hr ibiza mix by Carl Cox

The description Says" This is mix was recorded in one take in Carl Cox studio, and is an ableton free zone!"

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« Reply #118 on: July 13, 2007, 07:15:00 AM »
Sure... it's ableton free b/c like MOST mix CD's they're done in protools.

Doug, who was it we were talking about recently who got busted for just hitting play on a CD and pretended to mix vinyl?
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« Reply #119 on: July 13, 2007, 07:16:46 AM »


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