...um ok well then I'll just have to rely on God to bring people in off Google and other places and not rely on TF so much...

what does this have to do with being ashamed of Jesus?  i'm certainly not.  but that doesn't mean its the first thing that comes out of my mouth when i talk to people.  what are people going to learn about Jesus and what he means to me in just one encounter?  God created us for the purpose of RELATIONSHIP, and in that relationship people will gradually learn more about who Jesus is, through relationship with us.  That is what following Jesus means to me, everything outside of that is just how I live my life from day to day.  I don't need to label myself a "christian"  people on the outside should be labeling me according to what they see in my life.  the word "christian" isn't even a "christian" word.  it was a term first coined by people who were observing people who followed what was known as "the way."  the term "christian" isn't the end all be all of our existence.  in fact it means almost nothing in many circles, nothing as in its a void term to describe people in a collective group, much the same way that people call themselves protestant, or catholic.  "christian" is more associated with a lifestyle of the north american  west than it is about following Jesus.  So that is why I don't want to use the term.  not because i'm ashamed of Jesus, but because I'm ashamed of the people who bastardized the term to what it is today, but it in no way reflects who i am in Jesus.

i dont care what denomination you are as long as you love Jesus you are a Christian. call yourself a purple-elephant if it makes you feel better but if you truely love the Lord then you are a Christian.

anyway this whole discussion is kinda pointless... i've stated what I'm doing and what the Lord has called me to begin and if you don't like it then...

TOUGH


im not trying to be rude or disrespectful but there has to come a point when enough is enough. I'm doing something for GOD. are you (not aimed at anyone in particular) trying to stand in the way? if not then let it be. be at peace...dont speak a word and no one will try to force you to join anything. but those who are interested will be welcomed in openly. I've already recived 1/2 pms and spoken to 5 TFer's on the phone today that were all really excited so I think you guys are UNDERESTIMATING the people on this forum. but whatever. I will always link back to here and promote TF no matter what... I would hope TF will always do the same seeing as how this has become a 2nd family for me and I'm on here like 14 hours a day 

Does calling it "christian" denote quality to you?  Who is your audience?  Was Paul a christian, or a christian tent maker?   I'm VERY aware of Acts Chapter 11 and have been studying it for the better part of the last three months, and the verse you are referring to denotes the public perception of the people who followed Jesus at the time, not what the disciples called themselves.  It's later on that they started calling themselves that because it made perfect sense in context.  You are twisting my words around. 

HOLY CRAP GUYS!

Nate is trying to do something simple and all of you are seriously over complicating this! It's this freeking simple:

1. You are a DJ
2. You are a Christian, or Christ-like person, or Christ follower or whatever the heck you wanna call your self. Basically, you associate yourself with Jesus Christ in your personal life.

 IF BOTH OF THOSE ARE TRUE, THEN PROCEED TO STEP 3

3. You sign up and have yourself listed on his website, regardless of what it is called. It a freeking database, not your own personal website. It's a way for Christians to find out who out there in the scene is also a Christian. Simple, to the point. Stop trying to over think this. It's not this hard.

Nate, Count me in.

The debate is over the name mostly.

Nate, you've had a LONG time to pray about this project. I know you have. You still feel led to do it.. great.

All we are complaining about is the name of it. You just picked GodsDJs.com yesterday and you are "married" to it. All I'm asking is that you pray about it for a few weeks, get input from others before making the final move on it.

The site's identity is the most important thing. You don't want to throw out something useful with a name that repeals or implies the wrong thing. GodsDJs.com is way too perception forming from the start and will imply that those there are zealots (in a negative way), not really serious about their craft (ie. not professional club djs), are egotistical for thinking they are God's ONLY DJs and that they shouldn't be taken seriously.

Just pray about the name as long as you did the whole project. It's THAT important.

Dave, I don't wanna get caught into this argument, but I seriously think you are going too deep into this. Here's why. "God's DJ's" doesn't come across at egotistical at all. Nor does it imply that those who are listed there are God's ONLY DJ's. It's just a quick name that gets to the point. Much like "ChristianVinyl.com". It states what it is and does not pretend to be anything other. If there was a website called God's People, would you not want to be associated with it? That's silly for us as "Christians" to act like it is an atrocity for us to be associated with as site called God's DJ's.

All I am saying is this is Nate's vision. Whatever name he decides on should be whatever he feels that God has put on his heart. If he were blaspheming the Lord or promoting something blatantly wrong, then I could see the point of all this hubbub (if I may use such harsh language ). But he is simply trying to accomplish something that few others, including myself, have attempted to do over the years and he may actually pull it off. Instead of bickering over something stupid as the name, we should get behind this project and give our brother some solid support. If he finds a better name somewhere down the line, great! If not, who cares? It's a great vision that is needed.

But, as I understand it, "God's DJ's" is supposed to be a site that lists DJ's who call themselves chosen by God, IE: Christ-followers. The site isn't intended to attract secular people. It's intended to be a list of Christians for Christians to access. Where's the confusion?