FWIW, here's something that came to mind as I read over this thread....

What makes someone a Christian carpenter (or a carpenter who is a Christian or a Christian who is a carpenter--pick your preferred permutation)? If I'm a Christian carpenter, should I sing hymns while I work and design crosses into everything I build? The former, eh, probably could if I wanted to, but I might not be a singing kind of guy. The latter I think would irritate people and come across as silly. Perhaps I could put one of those little fishy symbols in my company logo or staple a gospel tract to my invoice. Again, the latter probably being the better of the two so-so ideas.

However, I could be an even stronger a witness for Christ by making sure that my carpentry is done to the highest quality standards (not just what needs done to pass inspection or whatever). I could charge a fair rate, show up on time, and be reliable, friendly, and courteous.

I could testify to my relationship with Christ simply by living my life and treating others as He would want me to.

I see the same thing in the musician or DJ case. Audio Baptism brought up Andy Hunter as an example of how to do Christian music right; however, Andy has repeatedly said that his approach to DJing in a secular setting is to not be publicly overt with his witness. But to simply do what he does with the goal to glorify God, and people notice something different about him, which then has often given him a chance to openly speak of his faith.

I think one thing that Christians often over-emphasize is overt witnessing. Yeah, we need to share the Gospel with others, but I'm not sure that "preaching" at folks should be our primary mission. I think, more importantly, we should live day-in/day-out such that people will see that there is something different and good in us, something that they become curious about and may start to want for themselves. Then, they will come to us. Just be prepared to speak about your faith when that time comes.

thank you John, well said.


I think I said that, but who's keeping tabs.

but...but....what about MY "well said"? I think I did good too....

Yeah, 404, you done good, too. (Psst, Daniel: dj404 = high maintenance )

PREACH! PREACH!!!


um, there are all kinds of plugins to fix that, or you could purchase a vocoder.


that is exactly how i see it! I'm shy in real life and i'm not really much of a talker, i much prefer to be doing things rather than saying things.

Another good example of musicians in a secular world are Mutemath. I went to see them the other night and they performed with such an air of humility it was amazing. They were still going crazy on stage (as they do), but it all seemed to be genuine - not just doing it for the sake of showmanship. Sincerity... that was the word i was looking for...

they miss the point. you're making music about stuff you like.....just like everybody else does. it just happens to be about Jesus :-)


you make a LOT of good points,but i disagree here. 
      if i offer to repair the plumbing of my church for free as an offering to God does that make the pipes christian? if i donate clothing to my church for our clothing drive does that make it christian clothing?

music is christian in the way air or the forest or water is christian.


right.  nothing wrong with writing about what you believe in. it's equally OK to write about your triumphs,struggles, temptations,etc.

the "christian rock" name is just a convenient way to abbreviate saying "rock music that has lyrics that reflect a christian worldview and/or are worship songs".

Hmmmm.

Truthfully, and Shawn and Sky youve known me for years, I could care less if someone hears a set of mine and goes "Oh my goodness, thats Christian" or not. When Im DJING, I simply want to look out and see people shaking there a** and smiling and having a good time. I think God will be cool with people dancing to music that doesnt say "Hey, look at me. Im making a statement thru my music; it just says, wow, this is fun"

My music is DARK, but then again, so is DJ Stryke's. (Who was AWESOME at Cornerstone, and my fav DJ in the lineup. Big Ups to Greg!!!)

I cuss like a sailor; I dont think this affects my status in heaven.
I have LOTS of sex; This one might.
In have MAJOR issues with lust; The booty is addicting.
BUT
I am NOT a minister, nor do I want to be one.
I do ask for forgivness on a regular basis
I know I fail, and I am ok with this bc, well, Im human.
and....
XXXChurch.com's Big Bunny is AWESOME. I hugged it and asked it if it wanted to "do things". It shook its head no, and pushed me away. I was heartbroken.

Oh well. Thats life.

I may be a nutcase, but Im still a Christian.

DEAL WITH IT.