you just call kneesh on the phone and say, "YO!  i wanna be your boyfriend" and then hang up really quickly 



seriously,though: ask her out. on a date.   quickly.  being in the friend zone is a dangerous place to be, my friend.  girls don't get it. they think they can treat you like another girlfriend and share their secrets & get close to you without it having an effect.  well, 95% of the time, it has an effect....

yea thats the "yea im not at all atracted to you and cant think of a nicer way of putting it response

when I first read the title, I didn't know what you were talking about.

believe it or not, I actually went through that, girl I grew up with was like "I'm too good friends with you and if we broke up, I wouldnt want that to happen."  Of course it was never meant to be, once I graduated and started working, kinda lost contact.

TOTALLY AGREE!!!

i think part of the problem is that i have hit that maturity and i am looking to be committed to a gurl... i found out lastnite thru another issue i am helping her with (trying to mentor her/protect her from guys she meets on the internet) (yes she brought me into it and i care to much not to help... it sux)... i found out that right now in her life she is dating around to have phun.... no commitment... so i think my willingness to commit scares her...
and yes kneesha it is the gurl that u r thinking of... i have not let go of her... and she is 18... so i,m sure she is not mature enough yet... but w0w... she is so much of what i have been looking for.. and honestly i care about her more than any other gurl besides karissa (my ex gurlfriend who is now married to heldbywill)

i think i need to let go... but i can't cut her out of my life... 1 thats not who i am... i am super close to several people in her family... 3 regardless of what happens we do share a special connection...

so yeah... thanx everyone for your responses...

For me, I've noticed, more often than not, that, if it happens, it just happens.  Neither me nor the other party has to "try" to do anything.  It's a mutual "wanting to be with them" sort of thing.  That's how it went with the current boy and my last serious boy. 

Friendship is absolutely paramount.  And, personally, I DON'T like it when a guy actively pursues me.  I also don't like it when a guy is friends with me, with ulterior motives.  I know people like to have things out in the open and know what's going on, but, trust me....  if there's attraction, it'll be out in the open before long. 

The less one tries to make things happen, the more they'll happen the way they should.

I was the King of the Land of Just Friends. My reign lasted from around 1982 to 1993.

Women that refused to date me often told me what a great husband I'd make and how lucky my future wife would be. (The female version of the ole "there's girls you date, and there's girls you marry" kind of logic guys use.)

I got so used to the JF speech that I actually could successfully remain JF with those women. Which typically disturbed the women in question. But I came to a point in life where I decided that I'd give it a shot, if she said she wasn't interested, it was up to her to approach me if she ever changed her mind.

I put myself through much less heart ache that way, and in 1993, I met a woman who became my best friend. We got married a year later. Now, I'm glad for all those JF speeches because none of those other women can hold a candle to my wife. (And that's not just a bunch of married guy brainwashing talk. I am SO glad that every relationship before her never launched or crashed and burned... including the woman that I originally wanted to marry. But that's a story for another day. )