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« on: April 09, 2007, 04:54:43 AM »
I don't post too often in the DJ section anymore. Everytime I come in here I see threads about controllers and all this next generation gear that, honestly, I'm scared of. The line between what a "DJ" is, is quickly becoming blurred with what a "producer" is.

Can we please just get back to posting stupid threads debating vinyl vs cd? ...your top 10 tracks?

I just want to be able to participate in a thread in the DJ section again. It no longer looks like a DJ section.
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2007, 07:26:49 AM »
Well... it only takes one to start it Wink

The problem is that the times are changing. This just goes to show how big of a waste those CD vs Vinyl arguments were/are b/c CDs simply won't be around much longer. Wink
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2007, 11:43:24 AM »
Lets debate Vinyl vs. Cd...  echo echo echo echo, anybody there Huh 

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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2007, 11:12:57 PM »
yeah, those debates are lame, use what you like.

I don't see cds/vinyl totally going away forever and ever but anything can happen, I can't imagine walking into the music store and buying this new improved compact disc thats the size of a floppy.

me the FS/SSL is the best route if you want to try new technology.  no burning cds and big configurations of midi controllers.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2007, 12:51:29 AM »
posted a top 10 post for you, Chris!  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2007, 03:43:31 AM »
hah! Thanks!
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2007, 08:54:19 AM »
Why?

Simply because the DJs aren't posting much in it, the producers are!

Quote from: djdunamis on April 09, 2007, 11:12:57 PM
yeah, those debates are lame, use what you like.

ditto. As long as it sounds good (quality wise) i don't care. A good mix - imo - is all about the tracks and how they're mixed - not what they're played from.

Hey, Chris, why don't we start a thread of the top 10 top 10 lists?!!! Wink
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2007, 09:16:12 AM »
Quote from: Imhotep on April 10, 2007, 08:54:19 AM
Why?

Simply because the DJs aren't posting much in it, the producers are!

When did THIS happen!!!
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2007, 09:21:52 AM »
ok, let me re-phrase...

the DJs aren't posting much about DJing - they all seem to want to know about producing.
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2007, 09:36:17 AM »
isn't DJing almost producing these days Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2007, 10:16:10 AM »
exactly, the lines have gotten so blurred. sigh.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2007, 02:18:24 PM »
Quote from: Dave Richards on April 10, 2007, 09:36:17 AM
isn't DJing almost producing these days Smiley


no, it's sub-DJing now.  OK, not sub-,but pseudo? para-DJing? 

i don't see how sequencing tracks together is being a club DJ.   not that i'm against it per se,but where's the skill? in lining up the WAV forms?

if you're doing what sasha does & remixing on the fly with the raw parts i can see it,but i don't hear of too many people doing that.

guess the 'talent' of beatmatching is obsolete.
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2007, 02:28:55 PM »
Heh heh, DJs became Live PA artists so slowly nobody really noticed... Wink
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2007, 05:05:49 PM »
I would imagine half the people using Ableton aren't using to live PA/remix as much they're using it to be lazy.  Tongue I mean, I suppose that's okay if you can't beatmatch, but Ableton's generally overkill for DJ'ing imo.
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2007, 09:33:40 PM »
Quote from: Davo on April 10, 2007, 02:18:24 PM
guess the 'talent' of beatmatching is obsolete.

Personally,  I never viewed beatmatching as being a talent,  but rather a skill.  Sure,  some people are better at it,  but being proficient at beatmatching is something anyone can learn to do.

Quote from: Ethan Bliss on April 10, 2007, 05:05:49 PM
I would imagine half the people using Ableton aren't using to live PA/remix as much they're using it to be lazy.  Tongue I mean, I suppose that's okay if you can't beatmatch, but Ableton's generally overkill for DJ'ing imo.

If you're using Ableton properly,  you're not really DJing,  but performing.

End tale,  it's all about knowing how to properly use your equipment.  Would you call a DJ that just mixes between tracks lazy if they don't use the EQs and various effects to enhance their work?

I don't know...This is just a topic I really don't care to dive into.
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