...watered down.

I have a different view than you 404.  Tastyfresh as a community has never been great at supporting the artists and DJs in it.  Look at The Show, you were just complaining about last of support the other day.  So what you have here is a bunch of talented producers and Djs who are kicking butt in the secular scene and everyone loves them for it.  Ive seen a few new producers show up here who are writing great tunes (like Dunamis for example), and I think those people are getting recognized enogh for the current level of stuff they are doing.

But like Oneel said (to paraphrase) - the community gave the list, not BTU or Dave.  My personal belief is that the standards for music have been raised and not enough producers and putting out at that level.  The reason everyone says Joel Armstrong, Shiloh, and Uberzone is because they, among others, are the best at what they do and theyre getting more and more popular.  People want more!


As for people fading away from here - I dont think its lack of uplifting, its lack of support in general. People here dont buy others peoples stuff and they dont listen to their shows (much).  its a small community and you cant look to it as a sole place to exist.  There is no Christian dance 'scene' and there barely ever was one that was on par with any kind of secular one.

- - Dan

i defiantly do not think tastyfresh is elitist... and i am very confused about you post 404...

i think it is elitist to limit this site to Christian DJs... DJs that are Christians and their ministry aspects should be the core of this site...

what happened to make you think/post that ? just curious...

I'm just going to be open here. Chris, this post REALLY angers me. Why? It's simple... b/c you have done exactly what you complain about everyone doing with your site and podcast. You ignored it.


You could have contacted me any time bro. ANY TIME to discuss these things. I've taken time out to call Davo and Scroggins and others about issues they were having to the site and listened (not ness change my opinion) to their issues and weighted them according to the site's vision. Despite what people think, I'm 100% open to suggestion. Just come to me first rather than ranting in public like a spoiled child. PLEASE. I hate making posts like this.


1) The format of the podcast has ALWAYS been to promote both newbs and pros. they will both have an hour to play on each show. What you saw was a list of people I was considering. Most of those were big names b/c I was looking for big names at the time. Big names draw new people. You go to see Oakenfold not DJ Slam Mix 2086.
2) The producer list has been up since the launch of the latest redesign. Have you even looked at this list? Do you not realize how much work it is to write bios for all of these people? Do you not realize that we only have 2-3 people writing bios when they get a chance and that these same people are also writing reviews and articles. We want to include anybody that has a label release, be it one track on one compilation CD that tanked or 50 successful albums. We only have this one requirement. It takes TIME to make this list. Lots of time. If there wasn't a minimum requirement, we would never get finished with the project.

I'm REALLY disappointed with you on this because you ignored the multiple posts and articles that talk about how both the podcast and the producer list is being done. Don't ever complain on this site again about how people don't listen to your radio show or read your site. I don't want to see it or hear it.


Again... one hour for the newer people and one for the more established. And... you are forgetting something VERY important... I may not be able to get mixes from most of these people. It's not going to be easy to coordinate with them. They have a LOT to do. My guess is some shows will be all new people.


No. I don't want secular recognition. I don't want tasty to isolate itself from the world so that we are a light shining in a closet rather than a light shining in a dark world. Right now, we're stuck in a closet. You NEED to read the follow-up discussion for the latest unity article... as well as the latest unity article. In fact... this might be the only post you need to read.


We can't do ministry as we need to do it if we cut off the outside world. There is a need for ministering to other Christians, but we cannot neglect the calling to minister to the rest of the world. We have to do both. You NEED to read that follow-up discussion. I think I made my case VERY clear there and it will be written up in full in a future zine issue as well.


Not everyone left because the site sucks now. A LOT of the people left because God told them to do other things with their lives like... being a father. I'm sorry things aren't like they used to be Chris. They won't ever be again. The site is growing now and that means there is pain and change. I'm sorry that I've been ineffective as a communicator in what is coming down the road, but I have tried to explain things as I go. You have to read what I post or you aren't going to know what is going on.

BTW, the first podcast is Jeremy Kadinger and myself. I don't think either of us qualify as big names. Stryke might be on the next one. I dunno know though b/c his schedule is REALLY busy. I suspect most of the big names will be that way.

I may be upset at you, but I still love you. You are a brother to me.

Dave

And me?

Not to be egotistical, but i feel totally left out here.
My latest track has grown, despite me getting only one small bit of advice here. [If my latest is still just electronic game music, just tell me instead of saying nothing, no feedback is much worse that harsh criticism]
I had to post it somewhere else to get the much needed feedback.
Ok, i complain more often about stuff here, but that means that i do care, otherwise i would have shut up or left.
I do put in effort in trying to help others and other stuff, but i'm limited in what i can do.

Of course change is inevitable, but i ask myself why anime4christ is gone since October.
But anyway, i still have to see if the change coming for Tastyfresh is the right change.

I think it's a great opportunity for Tasty to piggy back on top of BTU's success. It’s a blessing to play to such a large audience and BTU has done all the work promoting it, so it gets the load of Tasty. I am sure we can put gospel in our sets. So how is this bad?

I said that, that's true.
Now that i have tasted my own better production skills, i agree with you here.


The podcast?
Honestly, i don't care about the podcast for myself.
If other can get on it, so be it, God bless them, but i don't care if i go on there or not.


I understand the reasoning.

I'm on another angle, feeling left out on advice in a decisive position with my music.
It's not about being the pod or having a name, it's about knowing that a part of Tastyfresh does care about me or about anime4christ.
That's where i'm feeling quite left out.
I think maybe it's time to just say goodbye here and quit trying to get help where i just don't get any more.
I feel as if this community isn't where i should be anymore and that it's better to seek something else.
Yes, this is goodbye.
God bless you all.

One in Jesus Christ, Jan.

@ Zeilenga: I don't see Tasty as my chance to break through, i saw it as chance to get decent feedback, which i did until up to my latest tracks and poof suddenly when i finally really see my improvement, much of it creditable to comments here on Tasty, it's over and i'm left hanging between ground and sky.
But anyway, it seems my tracks suck more than before and i'm more pathetic than ever before.
kthnxbye.