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« Reply #150 on: July 09, 2008, 06:09:41 AM »

it comes down to being a light.  Light works best where there is darkness.  I have the light of Jesus in me and I want to share that.  Sometimes I share it with others who have the same light and together we are a stronger light.  But sometimes I share it with those who have no light.

The key is knowing where your line is...how dark is too dark to where you might be overcame.

Thank you for saying that!  I was trying to say something like that, but it didn't come out nearly as well, or as brief  Smiley
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« Reply #151 on: July 09, 2008, 07:10:52 AM »

As a concrete example of how this discussion has benefited me (and to address something that I haven't directly responded to so far)....

Several folks have compared being against a Christian participating in a gay pride parade to saying that DJs shouldn't spin in secular clubs and to other activities. I had to think for... well, several days actually to sort out and be able to express what I see as the difference. So, here's what I've come up with....

The difference I see is what the primary focus is. At a gay pride parade (as a specific example), the primary and "official" focus is to celebrate homosexuality. At a club, the primary focus, as I see it, is to dance, have a good time and/or hang out with friends. Yeah, there's sex, drugs, and drunkenness that occur too, but that's not the primary focus of the club. At the swingers' club down the road, the primary focus is on sex. So, that'd be a club that I'd say Christians should avoid.

There is a spectrum with a fuzzy dividing line.

This is what keeps things from going to the extremes of feeling like you can't leave your house because the world celebrates sin. The primary focus of the world is not to celebrate sin, in my opinion. Yeah, the world is quite sinful (heck, I'm quite sinful). But I don't see that we're reliving the days of Noah at this point, where "every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time."

I'm even still not expressing my thoughts as well as I'd like to, but hopefully you can get what I'm trying to say. Without the discussion in this thread, I'd not have been able to express things even this well.
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« Reply #152 on: July 09, 2008, 07:32:30 AM »

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The primary focus...

To me this is the key for anything we do.  I understand what you are saying and I agree to a point.

There is a primary focus of the venue or the event and then there is the primary focus of those attending as well as the primary focus of the promoter and entertainment. 

I would think at any given moment all of their focuses could be vastly different and sometimes even the same.

It's the motive of the heart and that's where judging someone gets tricky.
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« Reply #153 on: July 09, 2008, 07:41:34 AM »

GLM: I totally get and agree with what you are saying. I could and would never DJ that parade, but... I'm not going to hold a secular company up to a Christian standard and expect them to NOT support such an event. To me, there's a difference there.
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« Reply #154 on: July 09, 2008, 07:51:41 AM »

Cindy said exactly how I feel. A paraphrase: The focus of the event doesn't trump the focus of those attending the event.
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« Reply #155 on: July 09, 2008, 07:52:29 AM »

It's the motive of the heart and that's where judging someone gets tricky.

exactly.
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« Reply #156 on: July 09, 2008, 07:52:43 AM »

GLM: I totally get and agree with what you are saying. I could and would never DJ that parade, but... I'm not going to hold a secular company up to a Christian standard and expect them to NOT support such an event. To me, there's a difference there.

Agreed, and that's why I haven't talked about beatport. I've focused on giving my answer to Joel's question about Shiloh back on page 1.

If I boycotted every business that supported anything that I didn't agree with as a Christian, I'd be growing my own food, sitting in a house that'd I'd built myself from raw materials that I gathered myself that was lit with candles I'd dipped myself. I wouldn't be working where I am. I wouldn't own a car. And on and on.
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« Reply #157 on: July 09, 2008, 07:54:16 AM »

^ Sounds peaceful.
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« Reply #158 on: July 09, 2008, 07:55:31 AM »

Yeah, but it'd be a lot of hard work too. Plus, you'd have no Internetz. Shocked
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« Reply #159 on: July 09, 2008, 08:06:42 AM »

Hmmm... I wouldn't know GLM. A tragic loss, but I'd survive. Wink
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« Reply #160 on: July 09, 2008, 08:16:44 AM »

GLM: I totally get and agree with what you are saying. I could and would never DJ that parade, but... I'm not going to hold a secular company up to a Christian standard and expect them to NOT support such an event. To me, there's a difference there.

Agreed, and that's why I haven't talked about beatport. I've focused on giving my answer to Joel's question about Shiloh back on page 1.

If I boycotted every business that supported anything that I didn't agree with as a Christian, I'd be growing my own food, sitting in a house that'd I'd built myself from raw materials that I gathered myself that was lit with candles I'd dipped myself. I wouldn't be working where I am. I wouldn't own a car. And on and on.

Thus the struggle being in the world but not of it.
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« Reply #161 on: July 09, 2008, 09:02:10 AM »

I wouldn't play the festival at this point..
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