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« on: June 06, 2008, 12:52:04 AM »

I made a few changes to this mix. Could you please give me feedback on it? Hear anything I can improve?

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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 10:24:19 AM »

i'LL BE HAPPY TO!  Lemme get home from work,  then I can download and give it a listen.  Tell me...What exactly are you going for with this mix?
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2008, 10:27:21 AM »

Nice Mix! Clean mixes....harmonic. Nice bro!
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2008, 07:45:42 PM »

Thanks Oneel! I made this mix to mostly reach the newcomers in the rave scene and also to act as a trip down memory lane for the trance veteran's by mixing up the classics a bit to give them a new sound (so far they've liked it). I always wanted to do this just for fun too and put all the trance hits together. Do you think this would work well live as well? (it may only work for a young crowd at a rave). Was it a good choice of tracks for that order? Did you hear anything that didn't seem right?

Thanks Pat! lol mmmm To make trance mixes is what I like yes.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2008, 08:21:54 PM »

My additional feedback is MORE people need to give Adam von Volterock feedback.  smiley22
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2008, 08:44:14 PM »

ok. i just downloaded it, and will listen to it now. feedback will come when the mix is done.

in the mean time, you want to post the tracklist?
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2008, 10:33:17 PM »

Since you were looking for truly honest feedback, here it comes:

(I actually did sit down and listen to the entire mix, all the way through in one sitting)


RANDOM THOUGHTS WHILE LISTENING:
- castles in the sky vocals... OH GROSS.
- your not alone vocals.... OH CHEESY
- mixing out of your not alone sounded chunky.
- most of the mashups in this mix sounded really awkward.
- 31:30 -> 32:00 = disgusting.
- that song at the 35:10 marker -> I HATE THIS SONG.
- the DJ sammy vocals came in, and i wanted to turn the mix off. (the kept listening because i was going to review your mix, but honestly, if i wasn't reviewing it, i definitely would have killed it right there.)
- last song (or second to the last song??? i couldn't tell) was freaking rad. (although the last 30 second track was pointless.)


OVERALL THOUGHTS:
overall, I have got to say, i will never listen to this mix again. i honestly think this was not a good example of what "classic" trance is. this is more of a mix that is an example of what "pop" trance was. i admit, there were definitely a few good tracks in there... its just the tracks that were complete pop trance really killed it.

i wouldnt play this mix, or anything close to it, to a young crowd or to a newcomer to the rave scene. this is not a good introduction.

and what im about to say might really sound harsh, but 80% of this mix is the reason i HATE most trance out there. this is the reason i am drifting further away from trance. there is a lot of good trance out there.... but honestly... i don't believe you have captured it.

i am sorry to have trashed your mix.... but really... i couldn't just tell you it was awesome, if this is how i honestly felt. it's the truth.
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2008, 11:48:28 PM »

NOTE: Adam, sorry to tag this thought in your thread. My comments have nothing to do with your mix since I have not listened yet. I am just adding a thought to Keith's post.

this is more of a mix that is an example of what "pop" trance was... its just the tracks that were complete pop trance really killed it.

...the reason i HATE most trance out there. this is the reason i am drifting further away from trance.
This type of trance is the reason I stopped spinning it. Believe me, from 2000 to about 2003 I was all over this, but then it just got old and all of it sounded exactly the same. This genre killed itself because it lacked creativity.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2008, 11:54:51 PM »

This genre killed itself because it lacked creativity.

Well... for most people it did.

But honestly, there is still good trance out there and there always has been. You just have to find the right artists. There are producers that still make great tunes.

Trance didn't completely kill itself to me. I occasionally still find gems. I just find them less and less these days.
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2008, 09:13:00 AM »

haven't had a chance to listen yet, but going by what keith said it seems you captured tracks that were "radio friendly" if you will.
where i'm from stuff like that is still "popular" b/c they're misinformed and that's the only eposure to trance some people get.
even i started listening to stuff like that back in the day, sadly to say alice deejay better off alone is a track i like *waves glowsticks wildly* laugh.
i will listen at some point (have it downloaded) and see if it would fly on our only local dance show.
we used to have an awesome radio station, but times have changed and they went under and the weekend mix show went the way of the dodo and the rambler.
candy kids are still out there in some way shape or form, and believe it or not kids like this stuff.
now i went from being a trancer to a breaker i guess you could say.
i have a ton of trance records and some of the classics.
i remember the first mix cd i ever bought was sasha global underground 13, not bad, but not something i can really listen to today b/c my tastes and the music have just changed so much.
not dogging the feedback at all, but for adam these are probably tracks that got him in the scene just like they did for a lot of people, just something to think about.
there are only 2 songs i've ever heard on my local stations that i would consider dance dirty vegas days go by and daniel bedingfield gotta get thru this but that's about it.
will listen and give some honest feedback myself.
so yea, keep doing what you like, and remember that djs are the biggest critics in the business  Cool, i'm so critical of my own mixing that i nitpick every transition on a recording and even if no one else but me hears an issue i hear a trainwreck.
keep hope alive....
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2008, 06:53:32 PM »

okay, about halfway through, some thoughts so far before i forget.
the mix at about 15 minutes was a little rough, the vocals were way too busy at about 25 or so minutes. okay, the tracks in general are a lot busy.
one thing i've learned about mixing trance is kiss (keep it simple silly).
you get that whole phasing issue and chords that cross paths and just sound like total butt.
yea, i'm hearing a lot of busy-ness.
the only real suggestion i have is just mix it straight, it almost sounds like one of those sample things on the radio where they mix 5 songs together and you try to figure out what they are.
not trying to be mean and dissin on ya, it's just way too busy man.
on a solid note the beatmatching is flawless from what i can tell.
just try to keep it simple, long sustained mixes are okay towards the end of a track, but not in the middle when they hit a big peak.
i dont know what else to say man, i had to just stop it about halfway through, just way too busy.
on a side note that's better than anything i could put together.
Josh
(sorry if i sounded like a jerk, not my intentions at all, not even trying to be sarcastic in anything i said, just pointing out what i noticed and i guess i have no cooth if you will)
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2008, 07:58:09 PM »

I think for one of Adam's 1st mixes that he put together is good on harmonic beat mixing. This is definitely not a floor packer dance mix but something to listen to.

There are a few parts that the mix is way off, right around 32:00. Also the mix @1:06:32. Nice!! Also at 1:10:10! SWEET!!! Very very good!

I like the transition around 40:00. I thought that was clever.

I would suggest working on better music programming/song selection.

You defintely have the skills and musical insight from your tons of music classes plus I did teach you how to mix...haha. So the teacher is biased!  angel

DJ's can be way critical too so get feedback also from listeners too. ON a scale of 1-10. I would give you a 5. Would this fly at a club...no! Radio-yes given that the serious train wreck that keith mentioned was cleaned up.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2008, 08:10:28 PM »

yeah, that's one thing i will say the beatmixing was spot on. please dont take anything any of us have said the wrong way, just stuff to think about...
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2008, 04:12:17 PM »

I think for one of Adam's 1st mixes that he put together is good on harmonic beat mixing. This is definitely not a floor packer dance mix but something to listen to.

I just disagree. His beat-matching was fine, but harmonically, it didn't really sound great to me. the reason why is that a lot of the transitions sounded way too busy (like mentioned earlier). I hate it when trance mixes/transitions sound really busy with two different songs chords all mashing together. i just don't think it sounds "harmonic".

DJ's can be way critical too so get feedback also from listeners too.

Although DJ's can be critical... honestly, he posted this mix and ASKED for honest feedback from DJ's.

Well... he is getting what he asked for.
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