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Dave Richards
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2008, 09:22:20 AM »
Never forget about "gospel house" it's its own genre for a reason.
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2008, 09:47:14 AM »
Stuff by casting crowns, chris tomlin, hillsong, sonicflood, mercy me, ect...

I like casting crowns!

but to fill a cd full of covers... even when the are great...
but than again if you make it commercial and good sounding why not...
Whatever it's going to be.
good luck!
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2008, 11:18:16 AM »
Quote from: Dave Richards on May 06, 2008, 09:22:20 AM
Never forget about "gospel house" it's its own genre for a reason.

Very good point
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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2008, 01:51:49 PM »
Quote from: Dave Richards on May 06, 2008, 09:22:20 AM
Never forget about "gospel house" it's its own genre for a reason.

TBH I don't think I've ever heard the phrase "gospel house" outside of Christian circles. It seems like it's typically grouped in with the diva/big vocal-type house as "gay house" (i.e. stuff that gets played in gay clubs).
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2008, 01:55:32 PM »
Shhhh... don't tell him the OTHER name for it.
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2008, 02:03:54 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2008, 02:07:25 PM »
Quote from: Ethan Bliss on May 06, 2008, 01:51:49 PM
TBH I don't think I've ever heard the phrase "gospel house" outside of Christian circles. It seems like it's typically grouped in with the diva/big vocal-type house as "gay house" (i.e. stuff that gets played in gay clubs).

Oh, it's out there.

We hear about it a lot because of the obvious Christian connection to Gospel, but it's been around for a looooong time.

It's true that it's not as popular as it used to be.
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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2008, 02:21:32 PM »
you knockin gay house? haha
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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2008, 02:34:17 PM »
when do I NOT?
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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2008, 02:51:40 PM »
OK I'll step up to this conversation. Many of you know that I have been playing "Christian" dance music for many years. I was a label rep for N*Soul, I own every product they released. I have a Christian Dance collection that probably only Carey Jarvis could rival. I say that to say this. I played Nitro Praise, MYX'd Trip, Hymn's In The House and the other Hypersonic stuff, that praise dance cd that Joey Belville released, all the indie mp3 released worship covers and remixes, I even have the CD's by these new guys Worship Electronica or whatever it's called, etc. I gotta be honest. I'm burnt out on all that. To repeat what has already been said, It's been done to death.

I agree. If you want to do something like this, you need a fresh approach. In order to do that, you need to do some research and look and listen to the old stuff from the past. DON'T REPEAT their formula. Some of it was good, most of it was cheese. I say that and I was probably one of the biggest guys playing all that stuff simply because it was a away for me to sneak in other dance music at church functions.

I honestly do not think that even if you do come up with a fantastic fresh approach that will knock our socks off that you will make any money on it. You will find a hard time getting distribution and even if you did, most people would pass it up for the latest Tiesto or PVD project.

I know I am sounding harsh, but I am just making an attempt to keep you from investing in something that will probably not return the favor.

Instead, put together a solid compilation of great dance tracks produced by Christians. Yes it's been done before, but it will sell.
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2008, 02:16:55 AM »
OK, looks like the general view is to think about this some more before putting in too much time and effort into something like this.

Perhaps because I am such a new Christian and have not heard any of the stuff that you mentioned before made me think too quickly that there is a niche out there. I listened to some of the stuff that you mentioned and in general it is pretty terrible. Apart from Gospel house which I was playing eben before I was a Christian. I didnt think about it as being Christian I just played it because it was good.

On reflection and thanks to your comments I am now thinking that the secular view might be that it is not credible and that finding out that a great producer or act are Christian after liking their music carries more weight.

It would still be great to have some kind of commercial dance act appearing on Christian TV and Radio though but how that could be acheived Im not sure. I just imagined that somehow great Christian Worhip Dance could be created instead of just great Dance music made by Christians if you get what I mean.

Casting Crowns, Mercy Me, Chris Tomlin ect.. is as well if not better produced than most secular rock/pop but the obviously Christian Dance that I have heard is terrible, I mean look at that Nitro Praise Stuff its dire. DreamLab are not too bad though, just discovered them today. Not quite there though.

Anyway I think I will shelve it for now and concentrate on the studio I am trying to build and maybe see what happens later. Maybe when I am better at producing something might be possible, I just thought that all the collective talent on Tasty Fresh put together could easily compete with the production skills of the commercial tracks I listed as examples. Kind of like an open source Christian dance music project with everyone chipping in with what they are particularly good at.

Maybe this open source production approuch is still possible but perhaps not working on a cover but something original?
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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2008, 02:18:05 AM »
Quote from: Christopher Carl on May 06, 2008, 02:51:40 PM

I know I am sounding harsh, but I am just making an attempt to keep you from investing in something that will probably not return the favor.




While I agree with this statement, there's not many people in electronic music that expect that in general :-)


to the original poster:  take a bunch of this advice to heart but don't lose your enthusiasm.  its good to have people that are passionate about what they want to do, do it for the enjoyment.  You've got something on your heart, I think you need to process it a bit, but don't lose your excitement for the awesome spectrum of electronic dance music.  Worship manifests itself in our daily lives when we use gifts for Gods glory and when we use it to better the lives of people around us.  If you use that in conjunction with the music you write, and with the relationships you build you are living out worship to God, its not limited to classic lyrics ( i love hymns ) or modern worship songs.  Get comfortable with worship through your gifts.  Hang out here and get to know people and somewhere down the road I think you might be able to find an idea that might take off, who knows right?  welcome to TF.
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2008, 06:32:22 AM »
Quote from: Joel on May 07, 2008, 02:18:05 AM
Quote from: Christopher Carl on May 06, 2008, 02:51:40 PM

I know I am sounding harsh, but I am just making an attempt to keep you from investing in something that will probably not return the favor.




While I agree with this statement, there's not many people in electronic music that expect that in general :-)


to the original poster:  take a bunch of this advice to heart but don't lose your enthusiasm.  its good to have people that are passionate about what they want to do, do it for the enjoyment.  You've got something on your heart, I think you need to process it a bit, but don't lose your excitement for the awesome spectrum of electronic dance music.  Worship manifests itself in our daily lives when we use gifts for Gods glory and when we use it to better the lives of people around us.  If you use that in conjunction with the music you write, and with the relationships you build you are living out worship to God, its not limited to classic lyrics ( i love hymns ) or modern worship songs.  Get comfortable with worship through your gifts.  Hang out here and get to know people and somewhere down the road I think you might be able to find an idea that might take off, who knows right?  welcome to TF.


AWESOME post Joel  Cool  Cool

Totally agree.
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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2008, 07:29:06 AM »
Quote from: Christopher Carl on May 06, 2008, 02:51:40 PM
I gotta be honest. I'm burnt out on all that. To repeat what has already been said, It's been done to death.

Yeah, same here.  When something like dreamlab comes out, I just don't enjoy it.

When Nitro Praise 1 came out, it was Innovative and amazing!  Now it's a stereotype everyone is trying to copy.

I do like the MWS Remixes Tresice has done, so maybe it's just a fresh approach or a quality issue.

Quote from: godspeedradio on May 07, 2008, 02:16:55 AM
It would still be great to have some kind of commercial dance act appearing on Christian TV and Radio though but how that could be acheived Im not sure. I just imagined that somehow great Christian Worhip Dance could be created instead of just great Dance music made by Christians if you get what I mean.

Casting Crowns, Mercy Me, Chris Tomlin ect.. is as well if not better produced than most secular rock/pop but the  original?

Dude, you should totally check out Andy Hunter

http://www.amazon.com/Exodus-Andy-Hunter/dp/B00006LI47

Read the reviews there at the bottom of the page, and listen to some of the clips of the songs.

He has several albums out now, and that's his first, but I think it's the most like what you are looking for.

His next best is his newest, Colour, very good, but much more laid back (as a whole).

Also Tresice has done several Michael W Smith remixes that are very good, and are free downloads:

http://www.gerwinkoudijs.com/music/remixes/remixes.html

Also free Download of a Hillsong mashup from Frank Nuckless on the front page of http://www.dancechapel.com
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