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« on: May 05, 2008, 07:46:01 AM »

In Captain America #37 - Bucky (Winter Soldier) who is currently wearing the uniform, and Sharon Carter are both sneaking around the Red Skull's place, and discover stasis tanks with  multiple Steve Rogers (original Cap) in them.

May be clones, may be skrulls, but one may be the original cap!

We'll see what happens with that.

Also, Avengers/Invaders comes out this week, and the Invaders from the 40's (which definitely includes the original Cap) are some how time traveled to present day and try to make sense of everything being so different.




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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2008, 08:01:18 AM »

It's a comic book. Nobody ever is totally written out.  Even if they were, you can always write them back in as an alternate universe or something.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2008, 09:10:40 AM »

yeah, yeah...

There already is an Ultimate universe where Cap is alive and well, but if you ask John Christian, he doesn't like that Cap  Smiley

I know he would be excited if the original were still around.

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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2008, 09:27:25 AM »

Superman dies  Wink I think he doesn't come back
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2008, 10:14:21 AM »

It's a comic book. Nobody ever is totally written out.  Even if they were, you can always write them back in as an alternate universe or something.

That's true, but alternate reality/universe isn't the get out of jail (death) free card.  The editors and writers have to come up with a real plot device to write the dead character back into the same time line. 

That's what makes it fun!  That's what separates having Cap die in the main continuity line from Elseworlds stuff like Superman being one of many Green Lanterns who happens to be assigned to Earth.  That book (Superman: Last Son Of Earth) was confusing!
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2008, 10:54:39 AM »

Superman dies  Wink I think he doesn't come back

Yeah, that one and Robin (Jason Todd) dying are probably the two most famous ones.

They're the ones that created the stereotype.

It's a comic book. Nobody ever is totally written out.  Even if they were, you can always write them back in as an alternate universe or something.

That's true, but alternate reality/universe isn't the get out of jail (death) free card.  The editors and writers have to come up with a real plot device to write the dead character back into the same time line. 

That's what makes it fun!  That's what separates having Cap die in the main continuity line from Elseworlds stuff like Superman being one of many Green Lanterns who happens to be assigned to Earth.  That book (Superman: Last Son Of Earth) was confusing!

Word!
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2008, 12:30:55 PM »

Thanks for posting this, Carey.

Though I still have yet to read the most recent issue--I'm a week or two behind on all of my books--I've actually been diligently reading Ed Brubaker & Steve Epting's run of Captain America and I have become extremely fond of every single issue. Brubaker/Epting have succeeded in making Cap my all-time-favorite Marvel character and a very close rival to my "all-time-favorite-comic-book-character-period," Batman. I must say that the current Captain America book is greater than the current Batman book.

The now famous "Death of Captain America" (The Death of The Dream) story was greatly written/drawn; it truly was a moving piece and it reminded me of our brave men and women of the military, both past and present, fighting (and dying) for the ideals of America.

It was a shame how they were mandated to come to the conclusion of Cap's death through the atrocious Marvel Civil War;
How Marvel EIC Joe Quesada continued to prostitute himself to the media: even to the point of giving Stephen Colbert (a comedian, albeit political one) a replica of Cap's shield, claiming it to be the original and stating that "Cap would've wanted you to have this." In light of that cheap publicity-stunt, after the cheap move of "erasing Peter and Mary-Jane Parker's marriage from history" I once joked that Quesada would next offer their wedding-rings to Colbert as another gift.

But in spite of all that, Captain America still continues to be a great book. Whether or not Steve Rogers (original Cap) is actually resurrected (no clones or past-selves) or James Buchanan "Bucky" Barnes continues his legacy, I'm still proud to be reading such a fine book.

It's a comic book. Nobody ever is totally written out.  Even if they were, you can always write them back in as an alternate universe or something.

Only people who buy said books are allowed to speak of such things. You don't get too. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2008, 12:52:44 PM »

Funny... I have a first amendment that says I can  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2008, 01:03:36 PM »

HAN SHOT FIRST!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2008, 01:04:39 PM »

Funny... I have a first amendment that says I can  Wink

And I have a Second Amendment that says you can't. *Chk-chk*

j/k Wink

Let me rephrase by saying that you can, but that doesn't make your comment anymore valid than before. smiley23 smiley1
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2008, 02:50:47 PM »

you know... a reasonable person could argue that the 2nd also gives me the right to have my own nuclear arsenal. Fortunately, our capitalist economy would prevent that even if other laws didn't Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2008, 02:55:41 PM »

 Cool is that ultimate war an actual comic book. I like wolverine alot hes my fav character of all time. Speaking of comics theres a spiderman comic with beast on the cover of it, i wish i knew which series of spiderman it was form i seen it back in 5th grade. if anyone knows which one that is let me know i wanna get it, hehe, comix ftw.  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2008, 02:57:47 PM »

Yeah, Ultimate war is an actual comic book  Smiley

About your spidey question....beast from the X-men?

Can you describe it any further?
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2008, 03:31:08 PM »

HAN SHOT FIRST!!!!

Even George Lucas knows that.

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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2008, 05:11:21 PM »

 Cool yes, it was beast from x-men. he appeared in an spiderman comic, but i dont remember too much about it. i know the cover features both of them on it, and thats all i remember, i only seen it like maybe 2 x and that was back in 5th grade.
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