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« on: March 29, 2008, 01:18:13 AM »

I heard that our world banking system almost completely collapsed a couple weeks ago.

Do you know how our banking system works?

Here's a video that can help explain it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy-fD78zyvI&feature=related
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2008, 02:22:39 AM »

mmm, interesting stuff. I'm not sure about "our world banking system almost completely collapsed" though.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2008, 06:36:56 AM »

1) FACT: 99% of all the videos on youtube talking about this type of thing are made by ppl totally unqualified to make them.
2) FACT: It's not all about to collapse. We're a LONG way off from that. We MAY be entering a recession, but to do that, we have to have 2 quarters (6 months) of negative economic growth. We MIGHT be 3 months into that now and MOST of the recession talk is driven by the media during an election year.
3) FACT: What is going on right now is we are reaping what the banks and thousands of people bought into: Adjustable mortgages. From ANY position of intelligence, people should have KNOW that it was a DUMB idea to borrow money for 30-40 years on a variable interest rate. The banks that did this are reaping what they have sown and KNEW their clients wouldn't be able to pay them back when they gave the money out. Some will deservingly go out of business for this. In the end, we'll have a wiser more cautious banking system for a while, until they get stupid and greedy again.
4) Just start listening to Dave Ramsey. Follow his plan and you'll be debt free and have money saved up in case things tank again... or keep tanking.

Seriously, don't worry about this.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2008, 09:54:23 AM »

got a link to Dave Ramsey?  Yeah, its not that good right now, but no where near as bad as most think, have to agree with Dave on that.
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2008, 09:56:46 AM »

hehe, try moving to a country with a TOTALLY different perspective, and see how healthy you feel your* economy is then.


*your meaning "your previous country," not America
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2008, 10:04:03 AM »

got a link to Dave Ramsey?  Yeah, its not that good right now, but no where near as bad as most think, have to agree with Dave on that.

www.daveramsey.com The nice thing is that the guy is a STRONG Christian and it comes across on his radio and tv shows which typically are not on Christian stations.
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2008, 01:25:23 PM »

Jesus didnt have credit...
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2008, 01:47:41 PM »

got a link to Dave Ramsey?  Yeah, its not that good right now, but no where near as bad as most think, have to agree with Dave on that.

www.daveramsey.com The nice thing is that the guy is a STRONG Christian and it comes across on his radio and tv shows which typically are not on Christian stations.

I read his total money maker-over book and it has completely changed the way that i handle/understand what i should do with my money.

i am currently in progress of becoming debt free, and am looking forward to financial freedom so i wont let money become such a big battle/struggle.

i would also HIGHLY recommend the basic principles that dave ramsey discusses in his books, and talk shows, etc.
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2008, 03:14:18 PM »

Some will deservingly go out of business for this.

In fact, a lot of the lenders that issued these types of loans are already out of business. I am a mortgage broker and am constantly being flooded with e-mails from lenders going out of business and changes in lending guidelines for the banks that have been able to stick around. I would agree with Dave, there is still not too much to worry about. The fact is we have already been through the worst of it. A good indication is the fed stepping in to help homeowners on the verge of foreclosure and bailing out the larger banking institutions. They are tightening the standards the lenders must adhere to and are finally requiring licensing and continuing education for people such as myself (something I feel is long overdue) The American economy is not as bad as the liberals would like to suggest. Rates are low and look to stay low for a while. The real estate bubble was destined to burst and it finally did... appraised values were inflated and banks became greedy while they could because investors bought into it. The banks will continue to be conservative in their lending practices until the investors start investing again. A correction in the market was bound to take place, as it has done in the past and will no doubt do again in the future. Any wise investor would tell you now is the time to buy in, get in while the market is low so you can reap the benefits.

Don't believe the liberal hype yo!

ps.. Another good resource is www.crown.org (a Christian perspective on investing and debt management) They have a great plan to put you on the road to financial freedom called the "money map" and also host a good radio show titled "Money Matters" that I regularly tune into



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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2008, 03:46:40 PM »

Jesus didnt have credit...

Neither did most Americans until probably the 60's. Things got really bad in the 90's with it.
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2008, 03:49:33 PM »

Quote from: DJ Boywonder link=topic=11206.msg119404#msg119404
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www.crown.org[/url] (a Christian perspective on investing and debt management) They have a great plan to put you on the road to financial freedom called the "money map" and also host a good radio show titled "Money Matters" that I regularly tune into

Crown is older and good. Ramsey's teachings are more "Secularized" but are based on Larry Burkett's (sp) and Larry is one of Dave's heros. Dave just gives you the principles w/o forcing scripture memory Wink There's some added benefit from Crown, but compare the 2 before you get started on one plan or the other.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2008, 04:01:38 PM »

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article3570.html

http://www.strategicforesight.com/sw_bigquestions18.htm

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north591.html

http://www.fin.gc.ca/taskforce/pdf/lafferty1.pdf
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2008, 05:19:48 PM »

1) FACT: 99% of all the videos on youtube talking about this type of thing are made by ppl totally unqualified to make them.

I don't know how you were able to come up with a statistic like that. Knowing man's unquenchable thirst for wealth and power, I don't see this video being too far fetched.

Seriously, don't worry about this.


If our trust is in God, then we have nothing to worry about. But if we trust in man's system, we will be continually disappointed.
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2008, 03:32:49 PM »

I don't know how you were able to come up with a statistic like that. Knowing man's unquenchable thirst for wealth and power, I don't see this video being too far fetched.

EASY... anybody can post on youtube. You don't have to be an expert. If I wanted to say the world was flat and do a documentary, I could do it and post it on youtube. Nobody could or would stop me. Period. There is no requirement that what is posted is accurate or truthful... just like TV and radio.

If our trust is in God, then we have nothing to worry about. But if we trust in man's system, we will be continually disappointed.

Um... right. So... why are YOU concerned about this? The Earth will continue to exist and God will still be in total control if our economy destroys itself.

Truthfully, the only way to solve this problem is to not bail ANYBODY out. If someone invested poorly, sucks to be them. The market will correct itself if left along. The more the Gov't and the Fed Reserve screw with it, the more likely it will be that the market heads to the destruction you are seeing.

Seriously, Dave Ramsey has talked extensively on his show about what's going on now. Listen to him, it will make sense.

BTW, it's the nature of the market to fluctuate. That means it's supposed to go up at times and down in others. It's a fairly "natural" cycle.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2008, 04:10:47 PM »

I don't know how you were able to come up with a statistic like that. Knowing man's unquenchable thirst for wealth and power, I don't see this video being too far fetched.

EASY... anybody can post on youtube. You don't have to be an expert. If I wanted to say the world was flat and do a documentary, I could do it and post it on youtube. Nobody could or would stop me. Period. There is no requirement that what is posted is accurate or truthful... just like TV and radio.

I think he meant was "how were you able to come to the exact amount of 99%."
That's some heavy number crunchy you have there. Wink
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