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Topic: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion (Read 18456 times)
antijorge
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Re: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion
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Reply #60 on:
January 12, 2006, 10:46:26 AM »
Oh, if you see a dealer, bust them. Tell the cops, then watch from a safe distance. They don't work alone...most of them don't, so just don't tell anyone what you did, and don't let anyone see you talking to the cop and pointing.
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Re: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion
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Reply #61 on:
January 12, 2006, 08:02:07 PM »
Good advice man.. talk about the scriptures when you can, minister to DJ's when you can, minister to people coming down from highs, bust the dealers.
I second all of this advice.
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Dave Richards
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Re: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion
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Reply #62 on:
January 12, 2006, 08:05:42 PM »
you forgot the #1 thing though: Don't get killed by the drug dealer's friends.
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antijorge
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January 13, 2006, 10:46:14 AM »
You know, we used to get in free to a bunch of the parties. We would talk with the promoters and tell them what we were about. That we wanted to make sure people were OK and safe. The promoters like that. Safe party means future parties.
Were are you anyway, who's having parties anymore?
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Gsynth
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Re: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion
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Reply #64 on:
January 14, 2006, 12:07:05 AM »
I just read through this whole thread twice. And before that I dug through the Tastyfresh site top to bottom... and these are my thoughts:
1. Tastyfresh is not the church, it is not the dance culture, it is really a bridge between.
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Gsynth
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Re: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion
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January 14, 2006, 01:13:09 AM »
Reds, Im praying about how much time I might have to be involved here... and would like to have a little chat with you before the next update of this site if thats possible.
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March 07, 2006, 12:36:01 AM »
one thing that I think is important is that we look at this not as a "national" industry or ministry, but "international". I do think that the USA has been blessed with some of the best resources to reach the entire world for Christ, and with that, perhaps comes a responsibility to the world and to Christ, to do what we can.
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Gsynth
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March 07, 2006, 12:38:18 AM »
also out of curiosity, is there any proper worldwide directory, or straight-forward networking resource, for Christians who are DJs or active in dance music?
with the popularity of artist sites and how easy it is to put your face, music, bio/info and a contact link on the internet now, there's no reason why we shouldn't be connected and in unity worldwide.
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Dave Richards
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March 07, 2006, 09:15:23 AM »
Quote from: Gsynth on March 07, 2006, 12:36:01 AM
one thing that I think is important is that we look at this not as a "national" industry or ministry, but "international". I do think that the USA has been blessed with some of the best resources to reach the entire world for Christ, and with that, perhaps comes a responsibility to the world and to Christ, to do what we can.
The goal is to have these groups whereever Christian who like dance music live. I don't care if that is america, europe, Canada, the US, asia, antartica, ect.
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Dave Richards
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Re: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion
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March 07, 2006, 09:17:00 AM »
Quote from: Gsynth on March 07, 2006, 12:38:18 AM
also out of curiosity, is there any proper worldwide directory, or straight-forward networking resource, for Christians who are DJs or active in dance music?
with the popularity of artist sites and how easy it is to put your face, music, bio/info and a contact link on the internet now, there's no reason why we shouldn't be connected and in unity worldwide.
Some of this is in the works. There will be an artist and label directory (more of a who's who with web links) as well as maybe a DJ one in the new TF site. It WILL take time to build though. The groove fellowship site which I will start after TF is done will have some additional information such as local groups.
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gregory
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Re: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion
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October 17, 2006, 12:10:05 AM »
SUGGESTED TASTYFRESH VISION:
to know JESUS and make HIM known........
Groove Fellowships
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to know JESUS by studying HIS word, the BIBLE
expressing our love back to GOD through dj/dance-led worship
Outreach
into mainstream clubs -
make HIM known by HIS love in us from learning and drawing close to HIM through the Groove Fellowships then taking the message to the unbeliever/seeker.
It's not about the industry it's about people needing JESUS' grace, not man's dead religious works
just some thoughts, the same thoughts I had back in ancient TF days.
just a little older now that's all
ps
nice link:
http://www.tastyfresh.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,97/topic,1022.0
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Re: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion
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Reply #71 on:
November 26, 2006, 04:13:53 PM »
Why don't you place a donation button on the site to give ya'all a little revenue? You could be classified as a non-profit organization, whose purpose is to encourage, discipline and equip the saints for the purpose of ministry in the Christian dance subculture. Then, you could use the funds for the upkeep of the website, promotional materials, and even events you may want to host, or have other people host. At the end of each year, submit an expense report for those who are interested. Our church shows us money in and out each year, just so we know what our efforts are going toward.
You could even have a promotional, like a compilation CD for each donation over $10-$20. Not only would it help boost revenues, but it would give those who are interested in helping this grow a "taste" of the scene they are involved in. And it would probably increase sales for the artists. I don't know if this would be too much effort for you, but it could make all the work you do a little more worthwhile!
~charis
Quote from: Dancechapel on June 03, 2005, 11:17:57 PM
Andy's album may be economically successful because of licensing, but that could not happen if his music was not released...by the Christian label. It's not just promoting him, it's giving him a support from which he can do greater things.
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Now, as far as how much cash does TF make. Zilch. I'm paying ~$5 a month out of my own pocket and spending 40-80 hours a month working on various aspects of this site and the zine. The store is Kevins. Occasionally, I might get some cash from him, but all that depends on people buying the merch there.
Exactly - That's why I asked how much money Tasty made, not to bash it, but to try and put things in perspective.
Someone could look at Tasty from a business standpoint and say that it is not making money and it is not a success. That wouldn't be true though, because (in my perception anyway) Tasty's goal is not to make money, but to minister. Not to minister to the lost so much as to encourage, teach, inform, and to allow a place for discussions and synergy to take place for believers.
Someone could also say if it isn't targeted at reaching the lost it is a waste of time. That's not true either, because what you are doing is empowering believers and equipping them to reach the lost. It is making them better at what they do, and in turn they can reach people more effectively. The fellowship that takes place here also motivates them to do the same.
The need for a Christian Scene is for the exact same reason!
It may not look like it is successful economically, and people may think it is a waste of time since it isn't directly targeting the lost, but at the end of the day it's about making stronger believers and giving them a support base to go out and do what they need to do.
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Mister G
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Re: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion
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December 30, 2007, 06:57:01 PM »
I might be a little naive and I haven't read every single post in this thread so I apologize if I'm repeating something someone already said. I come at this as someone who's never really been involved in the secular dance music scene and as a seminarian who's getting ready to be a full-time pastor. I personally have no intention of wasting any more time trying to make it in the secular music world. I did that whole kiss-up game as an indie rocker and God slammed that door closed in my face.
I think there are a whole lot of Christian youth and people in their 20's out there who would dance to Christian electronic music if they heard it but they're completely uninterested in secular dance music because they think that dance clubs are for people who do ecstasy and engage in promiscuous sex. Before I got married, I was really frustrated by how limited my options were if I wanted to do weekend evening activities as a Christian single. I think there a lot of Christian twentysomethings who currently go bowling, go to coffeehouses, or go get ice cream who would go out dancing if there were dance clubs where not everybody was drunk and the music wasn't all about booties and bling. When I'm a pastor, I'm hoping that my church will be open to having a Friday-night ministry in which the word is preached through dance music.
As far as youth go, I think a lot of parents would say thank you if their kids were going to lock-ins that featured Christian dance music instead of finding all kinds of trouble to get into. I'm hoping I'm not going to get burned too badly when I actually pitch this idea to a congregation but I figure throwing dance parties to get kids saved should be part of what the money in the offering plate goes to.
The secular music industry in general is in trouble. I can't imagine trying to be a label and make any money from CD sales in this world where everybody downloads and Myspace is saturated with teenage bedroom producers trying to make it big. I feel like in the future gigs themselves will be the only real source of revenue. But this is where I think Christian artists have a tremendous advantage over secular artists. If I'm a youth pastor one day and can draw my own budget, I would spend a fair amount of it on dance parties which would mean essentially keeping the Christian producers fed so they can make more Jesus trance songs.
So I guess my approach is to say the church is my venue.
God's Peace, Mr. G
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Mister G
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DJ Pat D
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Re: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion
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Reply #73 on:
December 30, 2007, 10:56:58 PM »
good comments Mister G!
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DJ EX4
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Re: Groove Fellowship: Background Discussion
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Reply #74 on:
April 03, 2008, 08:26:23 PM »
I wanted to let everyone know that I read most of the posts on this thread and what all of you are saying about the change that needs to be made in the Christian dance scene is something I've been working over and over and over in my head for the last 4 years at least, so, on that note, if you have read my thread on the Events & Groove Collectives section about my event "RADIATE" this June 28th, my goal is not to start a thriving Christian only dance scene, I'm not even really focusing on Christian youth either, I'm focusing on reaching out to youth that don't know Christ or at least don't know much. I've been active in the Secular dance culture since '99 and experienced the whole bit with drugs like Ecstasy and so on, I've experience the really dark, really ungodly areas of these events as well, I've witnessed public nudity, drug use, sexual experimentations with the use of Ecstasy and I've seen what drugs have done to two of my closest friends who went on ecstasy and cocaine binges for nearly 6 months, they got to the point of sitting on the couch next to each other watching TV and both of them would start crying and I don't mean just a couple tears, I'm talking Sobbing their eyes out for no reason at all. They finally got away from those drugs, but not without irreversible damage to their brains or bodies. I was deep into the underground dance culture and experienced the dark parts of the Rave Culture, so, with that experience I've come along way in my life to realize that their is two sides to every coin, the opposite side of the coin for our dance culture is not necessarily Christian only, it's part of a broader picture, it is our duty to reach out to the unsaved many who walk our streets completely lost in their life not knowing which direction to turn. My goal for my label CHILLFACTOR PRODUCTIONS ENTERTAINMENT GROUP™ and the sub-labels associated like my Christian dance promo label Divine Light Entertainment™, is to take it in a direction that straddles that line between Christian and Secular, but, when throwing secular events we will have our Christian beliefs and morals instilled in everything we do and say at our events and they will be produced just as we would our Christian events, only instead of Worship as the mainstay of our events like in our Christian ones, we will concentrate more on the visuals, lighting and music content such as lyrics and so on, they will be done in such a way that they will retain our moral and religious beliefs but in a more subtle but obvious way if you are paying attention, it is our goal that at each of our secular events we will grab the attention of at least a handful of people who see what we are about just simply by paying attention to our music content and the visuals. Being a Christian isn't always about being obvious or outspoken about your beliefs it's more about showing it outward in everything you say or do. CHILLFACTOR PRODUCTIONS ENTERTAINMENT GROUP™, is going to do whatever it takes to make our Christian dance culture more relevant and viable in the Dance music industry, at least in the Kansas City Metro area, hopefully this strategy will spread like wildfire to other cities and states in all directions but I guess we'll see, BUT, I hope in the mean time all of you will find time and even a little cash to come to KC and check out our ministry/reachout, also, we are in the process of getting together a KC based Groove Fellowship as well, oh yeah, I guess I need to inform Chris huh? LOL! Anyway, lets light a fire under this culture/sub-culture or whatever it is and make something happen because like other people on here I'm not just going to sit back and let our music die, I'm going to make it grow and spread the word of our Lord in the process.
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