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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2008, 09:41:01 AM »

Reason is tedious if you don't have a MIDI keyboard.  One thing I like about FL Studio is that you can use your computer keyboard as an instrument instead of a MIDI (but obviously a real MIDI is better if you have one).  It's good for those of us who haven't yet invested in a MIDI keyboard (which, I heard about a great deal across town and might be buying one today).  Those are the only two I've really gotten to know at this point.  From what I've heard others saying, Ableton & Logic are great, but I can't testify.  I know the DJ from Desperation Band uses Ableton--only mention it because I like what I hear from him.
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2008, 10:09:34 AM »

Garageband, Logic, FL, and Ableton can do the keyboard midi thing.

I wouldn't say that anyone needs a midi controller, but everyone wants one. It does make some things faster, like adjusting your vst synth settings and quickly hearing what the result is.

...Have tried ableton but not found it that easy to pick up. But only used demos.

If it's too easy right off the bat then a red flag goes up for me. Any good program is going to be slightly difficult at first, but when you get the hang of it you won't even remember that difficulty down the road. ...That is with any current software because old software is going to be intrinsically difficult to use because of the lack of technology.
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2008, 11:07:10 AM »

really not keen on garageband, i can see it bein good for recordin instruments an that.. but just can't seem to make the music I want,

i am lucky to have a midi controller anyway.

Yea understand the learnin curve of it. Spose i jus need to wait till i got some time an patience to sit down and get round it all. Never bothered too much with live as you can not save in demo's so unless i get a copy of it or sumit i can not spend much time on it unless i leave it runnin.

Is logic in same style as cubase rather than being like reason?
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2008, 05:14:06 PM »

Logic is definitely more like Cubase than reason.
The only thing I don't like about Logic is that the audio engine overloads when you change from speakers to headphones in the middle of a song ~ it's really not a big deal though. I'm not sure about Logic's vst support, but it accepts other kinds of plugins, like AU.

I chose Cubase because Steinberg invented VST and ASIO ~ so Cubase must be amazing because of those two things if nothing else. I expect Cubase to come in the mail in 2 days ~ I just ordered it.
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2008, 01:51:55 PM »

Curious, but what are you talking about switchin from speakers to headphones?  How does that overlaod the audio engine, it shouldn't even be connected that way.  My headphones are connected to my interface, if I don't want my speakers on I turn them off.  Sounds like you are doing something much different than I...
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2008, 02:43:23 PM »

If I have headphones connected to the headphone jack (audio out) on my macbook pro, then I decide I want to hear it through speakers and switch it out, then Logic says something about an audio engine overload. The same thing happens if I suddenly go into a complex part of a song.

I click ok, then press play again and it's fine.
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2008, 05:16:56 PM »

Cubase 4 Rockzz!! Cool It's very stabel and i've never had any problems with it Wink

But now i'm curious.... what do u use for mastering??

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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2008, 07:57:59 PM »

If you meant me, I still don't know a whole lot about mastering. I finally got Cubase in the mail like an hour ago, I suppose I'll use it to master.

I have a glancing idea about what mastering is, but tell me a bit more in depth, what is mastering?
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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2008, 09:05:04 PM »

If I have headphones connected to the headphone jack (audio out) on my macbook pro, then I decide I want to hear it through speakers and switch it out, then Logic says something about an audio engine overload. The same thing happens if I suddenly go into a complex part of a song.

I click ok, then press play again and it's fine.

Try linking all tracks together by clicking the little thing that looks like a chain in the upper left hand corner. That should do the trick. I used to run into this issue a lot in Logic 7, but did some research and found out that was my problem because there was too much trying to play in real time. I rarely run into this issue in Logic 8. You are right, this is such a minor issue though and if you were going to use Logic to perform live you would be using MainStage anyways and wouldn't have this problem. I picked up Logic 8 about a month ago and am more than happy with my investment. The potential of the program is unbelievable! I don't see myself needing much (if any) for plug ins and the mastering is top notch. I really can't comment on Cubase because I have never owned it 
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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2008, 12:03:05 PM »

If I have headphones connected to the headphone jack (audio out) on my macbook pro, then I decide I want to hear it through speakers and switch it out, then Logic says something about an audio engine overload. The same thing happens if I suddenly go into a complex part of a song.

I click ok, then press play again and it's fine.

Generally you would have an interface that has outs on it for your speakers, and your headphones work at the same time.  Switching outs while things are runnin isnt good for any program. 
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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2008, 12:58:14 PM »

Cubase 4 Rockzz!! Cool It's very stabel and i've never had any problems with it Wink

But now i'm curious.... what do u use for mastering??



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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2008, 06:09:31 PM »

I have a glancing idea about what mastering is, but tell me a bit more in depth, what is mastering?

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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2008, 04:41:15 AM »

Well mastering is a bit of an art, and generally requires some experience, the right tools, and a great room.  If you are putting out a legit project I would always pay to have an engineer master it, especially if you have only been producing for a few years.  Lots of people self master, and you can become OK at it, but I have found that a real mastering engineer can get material sounding better.  I have boughten a few tools in the past few years, where I am actually thinking of going down that road soon.  ITs bascially become a loudness war for the uneducated, but I guess its about managing dynamics and eq in a way that translates and brings out the elements of the music.  Mastering will not fix a bad mix, but can take a great one to a whole new level.  I would really advise mastering some material on your own, and then sending a unmastered file to an engineer, so you can first hand hear the difference of a pro.  I've done it multiple times.  I've worked with Neil Kolo of fade records, A local guy (who I still use), and a mastering house in Berlin, they are all just a bit different, and have different strengths, so its a lot more than just throwing on a limiter and such in your host software.  .02
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« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2008, 03:02:00 AM »

What's the best way to transfer music to someone to be mastered? Can you just export to a WAV and then they do the rest with EQs, or do they need access to the "rig" to be able to more finely tune the levels of the different elements?
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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2008, 06:28:30 PM »

What's the best way to transfer music to someone to be mastered? Can you just export to a WAV and then they do the rest with EQs, or do they need access to the "rig" to be able to more finely tune the levels of the different elements?

Well I'm not exactly sure what you mean here by accessing the rig, but usually an ME will have everything he needs in his studio to get the job done.  If you are looking for the certain sound of a piece of gear or analog compression etc you may pick one over the other.
Yeah you can just export a stereo 24bit WAV of your track if you would like.  Some people do DAT, but I think most people today do files now.  A few places will even have an FTP etc for you to work with. 
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