Does a "Christian Market" for dance music still exist?
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« Reply #165 on: February 19, 2008, 07:13:57 PM »

As someone who was there in thr beginning I believe that "Christian" EDM labels served a purpose for a season however that season has long passed. It's all about good art at this point. Now that there is a community of like minded DJ's and artists use it to keep your spirit in check and let the music speak for its self.
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« Reply #166 on: February 20, 2008, 12:17:10 PM »



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Your just Jive-Talkin'.
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« Reply #167 on: February 20, 2008, 12:57:08 PM »

Sure... the guy who ran two labels that produced dance music in the Christian market is just Jive talking.
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« Reply #168 on: February 20, 2008, 01:58:58 PM »

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« Reply #169 on: February 20, 2008, 01:59:15 PM »

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« Reply #170 on: February 22, 2008, 12:08:20 AM »

Well, to throw in a couple of thoughts at what may be the tail end of this discussion ...

First ... the original question: Would I buy 'dance' music at a Christian store?  Probably not, since anything that I've seen in the last 5 years + at one (except mr. Hunter) has basically sucked. In the old days I could grab something with mr. blackwell's name on it (for instance) and know I was getting good tunes.  No longer ...

Second ... up here in Canada, the 'worship' genre of music started back in the mid-90's  with delirious coming out of no-where to play shows in old airport hangers and in fields in BC. They weren't even signed to N. American labels yet in those days, but they had something alive and Holy Spirit breathed on them as just some young worshipers with wild eyes set on pleasing the Father. God breathed on it and it exploded.

Soul Survivor had the same juice back then. I remember hanging out with Matt Redman before he was signed when he and his youth pastor would come visit us in Alberta ... just a guy playing a guitar, but God decided it was time to do something with this humble, short, kid. Now, 10+ years later, everyone and their band is trying to duplicate a sound and feel to make it big in the "worship industry", but that was not the goal when it all began.

The same thing happened with a few of us who were having fun praying and setting up creative prayer rooms - God breathed on it all and - boom! - the 24-7Prayer movement exploded in our midst!

My point ... they were just people doing what they loved and God breathed on it and it exploded because it was time to explode.  I'm here to say that it isn't about trying to get sales, or trying to crack the scene or get EDM into mainstream church or whatever.  It is about worshiping the Lord as you spin sets creatively and soaked in prayer and intercession.  You do it for the Father ... as worship ... whether in a club or coffee house.  And if God wants to breathe on it because it is time for EDM to explode, then that is cool.  But that isn't up to us.  You and I could find ourselves caught up in a massive missional explosion as DJ's, but maybe not.

This has been a good thread. A joy to read.

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« Reply #171 on: February 22, 2008, 07:25:45 AM »

AWESOME post Dan  Cool  Cool
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« Reply #172 on: February 22, 2008, 10:21:08 AM »

I agree with alot you wrote Dan...and I feel your passion as well.

I'm here to say that it isn't about trying to get sales, or trying to crack the scene or get EDM into mainstream church or whatever.  It is about worshiping the Lord as you spin sets creatively and soaked in prayer and intercession.  You do it for the Father ... as worship ... whether in a club or coffee house.  And if God wants to breathe on it because it is time for EDM to explode, then that is cool.  But that isn't up to us.  You and I could find ourselves caught up in a massive missional explosion as DJ's, but maybe not.


This is interesting to me...It has nothing to do with worship for me.  My sets really have nothing to do with prayer and all that.  I don't do it unto God at all.  Don't misinterpret me here.  I just play quality tunes and then live my life as a Christian.  Some people want to go the worship route and that's cool.  I just wanna rock out.  To each their own.  There are many many more Christians out there that just play tunes (and alot of guys who don't visit tastyfresh) and go for it with quality and are not really focusing on worship or leading people or anything.


Very interesting though and cool reading your post Cool
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« Reply #173 on: February 22, 2008, 11:17:12 AM »

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I just play quality tunes and then live my life as a Christian.  Some people want to go the worship route and that's cool.  I just wanna rock out.  To each their own.

There's nothing wrong with that.

I mean, how is that different from any other Hobby or leisure activity?

Why would it be ok to play video games, play basketball, or join a Motorcycle club, but bad if you want to rock out tunes you enjoy?

That wouldn't make any sense.
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« Reply #174 on: February 22, 2008, 01:19:35 PM »

This is interesting to me...It has nothing to do with worship for me. 

No worries Doug ... pound the music out for fun, sounds good to me!  My post was, I hope, speaking into the part of this thread that was referring to EDM taking off in the "christian market" much like the "worship genre" did. My point was that as much as we might try and market it into a sales force, that really is something that is probably left to God to worry about.  Our job is to spin and produce quality tracks and, for some of us, do it as an extension of our worship to the Lord.

Cheers!

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« Reply #175 on: February 22, 2008, 01:23:01 PM »

Ok... slight change in gears:

What actually led to worship taking off as a genre and why did it?
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« Reply #176 on: February 22, 2008, 01:33:45 PM »

Ok... slight change in gears:

What actually led to worship taking off as a genre and why did it?

Here's my stab at it ... I think if you take a meta-view of all that was going on in the mid to late nineties in the western church, three biggies stick out (at least from a Canadian perspective):

You've got the Toronto Blessing stuff, the beginnings of a new expression of worship music which end up becoming a new section in the bible store shelves, and the seeds of what would soon become the 24-7 movement and IHOP stuff (prayer as opposed to pancakes  Wink )   

All of these, in my opinion, were parts of God's desire to increase intimacy with Him in a time that following Christ was becoming more and more corporate and impersonal (more religious?).  Now, did the music industry position itself to make a buck off it - yep - but I don't think that was the point.  Intimacy with the Father was the big agenda (I think).

Anyway, that's my 2 cents ...

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« Reply #177 on: February 22, 2008, 01:36:33 PM »

This is interesting to me...It has nothing to do with worship for me. 

No worries Doug ... pound the music out for fun, sounds good to me!  My post was, I hope, speaking into the part of this thread that was referring to EDM taking off in the "christian market" much like the "worship genre" did. My point was that as much as we might try and market it into a sales force, that really is something that is probably left to God to worry about.  Our job is to spin and produce quality tracks and, for some of us, do it as an extension of our worship to the Lord.

Cheers!

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nice!  I like you Wink  You got your head around this.
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« Reply #178 on: February 22, 2008, 01:48:59 PM »

All of these, in my opinion, were parts of God's desire to increase intimacy with Him in a time that following Christ was becoming more and more corporate and impersonal (more religious?).  Now, did the music industry position itself to make a buck off it - yep - but I don't think that was the point.  Intimacy with the Father was the big agenda (I think).

Hmmmm... I'm not 100% sure how accurate that is. Well... the corporate and impersonal part. That doesn't really explain why it would overtake some/all of the old hymns which actually have been vetted overtime and are probably deeper spiritually than some/most of the P&W out today that hasn't had so many years to be vetted in the same way.

OK... my personal bias is coming out there Wink

I just look around my SBC community here and the people I see drawn to it are not the standard emergent types you are describing. There may be something more to it.

The question is why did it work for worship and not for dance or is it that worship hasn't been around as long as dance? Dance was popular for about 6-7 years on some level.
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« Reply #179 on: February 22, 2008, 03:39:43 PM »

Well, to throw in a couple of thoughts at what may be the tail end of this discussion ...

First ... the original question: Would I buy 'dance' music at a Christian store?  Probably not, since anything that I've seen in the last 5 years + at one (except mr. Hunter) has basically sucked. In the old days I could grab something with mr. blackwell's name on it (for instance) and know I was getting good tunes.  No longer ...

Second ... up here in Canada, the 'worship' genre of music started back in the mid-90's  with delirious coming out of no-where to play shows in old airport hangers and in fields in BC. They weren't even signed to N. American labels yet in those days, but they had something alive and Holy Spirit breathed on them as just some young worshipers with wild eyes set on pleasing the Father. God breathed on it and it exploded.

Soul Survivor had the same juice back then. I remember hanging out with Matt Redman before he was signed when he and his youth pastor would come visit us in Alberta ... just a guy playing a guitar, but God decided it was time to do something with this humble, short, kid. Now, 10+ years later, everyone and their band is trying to duplicate a sound and feel to make it big in the "worship industry", but that was not the goal when it all began.

The same thing happened with a few of us who were having fun praying and setting up creative prayer rooms - God breathed on it all and - boom! - the 24-7Prayer movement exploded in our midst!

My point ... they were just people doing what they loved and God breathed on it and it exploded because it was time to explode.  I'm here to say that it isn't about trying to get sales, or trying to crack the scene or get EDM into mainstream church or whatever.  It is about worshiping the Lord as you spin sets creatively and soaked in prayer and intercession.  You do it for the Father ... as worship ... whether in a club or coffee house.  And if God wants to breathe on it because it is time for EDM to explode, then that is cool.  But that isn't up to us.  You and I could find ourselves caught up in a massive missional explosion as DJ's, but maybe not.

This has been a good thread. A joy to read.

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Exactly taking it too serious!
Its about the life, the moment!!!!!
I think when times are as pure as that and God sees that
Thats where he wants to be.
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