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« Reply #210 on: May 16, 2008, 07:23:06 AM »

Huh?? Whats up with that video? I never seen that before, and I thought I saw all the leaked teasers...

Why is he calling himself Edgar when in the other orientations he calls himself Degroot?
Who is Wickman?

This is the first orientation vid I've seen where he actually comes out and basically says "this isn't what it seems as you may be aware already" as well as mentioning the island's uniqueness. Cool vid.

Back to the show though, the Orchid has the potential to do something drastic...even Ben didn't want to use this 'final option'. He'd rather 'gas' everyone to death as we saw several episodes back. Truthfully, I'm starting to doubt the ability of the writers now...I mean, how many freakin hidden 'hatches' are there? Cmon. If I was stuck on an island, I'd be mapping every square foot of the place to ensure I'd exhausted all possible means of escape....but no one is finding these relatively free standing outposts? I dunno. Even the Dharma housing community was 'hidden' from everyone.

Anyways...the best part of last night's episode was the final meeting between Jack and RICHAAAAARD!!! That dude is going to be KEY!
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« Reply #211 on: May 16, 2008, 08:18:46 AM »

Anyways...the best part of last night's episode was the final meeting between Jack and RICHAAAAARD!!! That dude is going to be KEY!

Actually, I think it was Kate and Sayeed that met Richard, not Jack.
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« Reply #212 on: May 16, 2008, 08:43:09 AM »

?  I thought it was Jack and Sawyer...but you're right. Now I remember. Don't matter. My point was RICHARD IS BAAAACK!

Now...where's that Abbadon guy.  duh duh dummm!

Oh...and the best quote this season (besides Ben's comment last week about the island being a BEEEYOTCH!) was when Hurley's mom says.."Jesus Christ is not a weapon."

I laughed so hard. What a comical moment.
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« Reply #213 on: May 16, 2008, 01:46:56 PM »

Huh?? Whats up with that video? I never seen that before, and I thought I saw all the leaked teasers...

It was originally presented at the Lost Panel at the 2007 San Diego Comic-Con and later on the Region 1 Season 3 DVD release. It was introduced by Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse as a teaser for Season 4. [source]

Why is he calling himself Edgar when in the other orientations he calls himself Degroot?
Who is Wickman?

He never calls himself DeGroot.
In the Swan Orientation Film, he introduces himself as Marvin Candle; in the Pearl Orientation Video, as Dr. Mark Wickmund; the Orchid Orientation Film, as Dr. Edgar Halliwax*; and he was shown in the Flame computer videos but never identified.

* Ben can be seen wearing a parka with an Orchid patch and Halliwax stitched on the front when he was in the dessert (possibly the same dessert that the polar bear fossil was found). ("The Shape of Things to Come")

All four of these men look almost exactly the same, however there's evidence that they may be, in fact, separate individuals. In both the Swan and Flame videos, the scientist appeared to have a prosthetic left arm, while the scientist shown in the Pearl video did not. In the Barracks video, the scientist did not move his left arm, suggesting it too might have been a prosthetic. In the Orchid Orientation Film, the scientist was using both arms and claimed he was not an actor. [source]

Gerald and Karen DeGroot are the founders of The DHARMA Initiative. He mentions them in the Swan and Pearl Orientation films, along with the Danish industrialist and munitions magnate, Alvar Honso, who funds the Initiative though The Hanso Foundation.

This is the first orientation vid I've seen where he actually comes out and basically says "this isn't what it seems as you may be aware already" as well as mentioning the island's uniqueness. Cool vid.

Back to the show though, the Orchid has the potential to do something drastic...even Ben didn't want to use this 'final option'. He'd rather 'gas' everyone to death as we saw several episodes back.

We don't know that for a fact if he was ever going to gas the island a second time. Daniel and Charlotte had alleged that he would but, as far as we know, this could've been a fabrication by Widmore.

Truthfully, I'm starting to doubt the ability of the writers now...I mean, how many freakin hidden 'hatches' are there? Cmon. If I was stuck on an island, I'd be mapping every square foot of the place to ensure I'd exhausted all possible means of escape....but no one is finding these relatively free standing outposts? I dunno. Even the Dharma housing community was 'hidden' from everyone.

Already been done. Wink

It's a big island; reaching the Flame required two days walk from the beach camp. The Arrow was a similar distance away. I think the 815ers were more concerned with the supply of food, making sure everyone was alright and, of course, getting off of The Island. And keep in mind that The Barracks were located on a separate island from those of the survivors.

[...] Ben's comment last week about the island being a BEEEYOTCH!) [...]

Technically it was "Destiny" that he was referring to. :/

Anyways...the best part of last night's episode was the final meeting between Jack and RICHAAAAARD!!! That dude is going to be KEY!

"Australia is the key to the whole game" Wink
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« Reply #214 on: May 16, 2008, 02:34:18 PM »

Anyone played the video game yet?

Supposed to reveal more secrets.
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« Reply #215 on: May 16, 2008, 04:36:04 PM »

ZOMG IT'S NUMBER 15! WHAT THE HELL!!!

I cannot wait for the season finale now!  Cool Cool Cool
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« Reply #216 on: May 16, 2008, 04:44:52 PM »

wow, you guys are seriously LOOKING into this show. I am a fan, and I watch faithfully every week, but I have never thought so much about the details and come up with the theories you guys have. I must be missing something. or I am just not really paying attention.
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« Reply #217 on: May 16, 2008, 06:30:37 PM »

I'm just a big nerd/fanboy. That's all. Smiley

By the way, I love your new avatar, Chris.
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« Reply #218 on: May 16, 2008, 06:38:39 PM »

Thanks nerd.
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« Reply #219 on: May 17, 2008, 12:23:43 AM »

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« Reply #220 on: May 17, 2008, 02:54:31 PM »

They're totally going to move the island to another point in time. Cheesy
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« Reply #221 on: May 18, 2008, 02:20:11 AM »

The only way that I can imagine that happening is that if it either moves far into the future or that it moves further into the past but to a different location 3-Dimensionally as well as in the Fourth Dimension. "No two objects can occupy the same space at the same time" and all that. If it's the former then all Widmore would have to do is wait; which is still a possibility since we've only seen just almost a year into the characters futures.

But if they appear in the same location, I foresee two possibilities. One, coming face to face with herself 30 years older would put her into shock and she'd simply pass out. Or two, the encounter could create a time paradox, the results of which could cause a chain reaction that would unravel the very fabric of the space time continuum, and destroy the entire universe! Granted, that's a worse case scenario. The destruction might in fact be very localized, limited to merely our own galaxy.
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« Reply #222 on: May 19, 2008, 02:07:40 PM »

...wonder what woulda happened to Rabbit #15 if he saw himself (re: the Orchid orientation video that you put up here).

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« Reply #223 on: May 19, 2008, 10:08:34 PM »

Well, think about Desmond going back in time and seeing Farraday? What might have happened if Desmond saw himself in the past instead? He'd have critically altered the course of time, Desmond might not have ended up on the island, which means 815 wouldn't have crashed, and all of the survivors might have ended up needing a more drastic course correction. The whole knot of destiny could have come undone, and who knows? Widespread death? The unraveling of the space-time continuum? People all over the world suddenly suffering from time displacement?

IE the end of the world!
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« Reply #224 on: May 20, 2008, 04:51:20 AM »

Oh, and what about the rabbit being number 15?

4, 8, -15-, 16, 23, 42....
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