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« Reply #105 on: March 15, 2008, 04:51:27 PM »

Nice try...but Jin is dead. And they said that next week someone else will die! ARRRRGH!

But really, why would Sun go through the motions of visiting his grave to fake it for Hurley. Nahh...i say he's gone. But the mystery of HOW is certainly what's important here. Obviously  he died or was killed to protect her and the other survivors perhaps too. He makes a good hero, and so does Michael who must have a part here to redeem himself from the 'killing of Elizabeth and Anna Lucia. Should be interesting how he connects again with Ben. You can kind of see how Sayid gets drawn into this story as one of Ben's hirelings as well!
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« Reply #106 on: March 15, 2008, 05:05:33 PM »

yeah jin is so dead

he is somehow gonna give his life to save sun or something.  he is a good guy.
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« Reply #107 on: March 15, 2008, 09:59:53 PM »

While it's yet to be declared as such, I believe that Aaron is the last of the Oceanic Six. The news media (who likely created the term) wouldn't care whether he was on the manifest or not, he was the sixth one "alive and rescued".

Also, I don't believe for a second that Jin is dead. Apparently the date on his tombstone is the date of the 815 crash. Further, those who are still alive on the island (in the future) are listed as 'deceased' to the rest of the world. So they would all have tombstones, because their friends and family would have had funerals, believing them to be dead. Sun would have had to have done SOMETHING to keep up the cover story. That's why she was saying "I miss you so much."

Think about it - if you lose someone you love to death, it's hard and you grieve, but eventually you move on. But, imagine if your lover was stuck on an island that NOBODY ELSE knows about and you CANNOT REACH. That would be worse than losing someone to death. It would be a living, daily emotional torture with no resolution in sight.

You do have a sound theory, Rish. Though keep in mind that they could still be rescued before January 1st of 2005--It currently being December 24-25th of 2004 on the freighter.

What I found somewhat disturbing was when Hurley is at the door of Sun's apartment, he asks her "is anyone else is coming?", she says no and he says (in a relieved manner) "good."

Could Hurley have had something to do with the alleged demise of Jin?
Could it also be that--regardless of whether Jin is really dead or not--Sun and Hurley are now an item? Undecided
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« Reply #108 on: March 17, 2008, 06:48:18 AM »

Glad I'm not the only one who caught that John, I thought that was an odd reaction from Hurley too!

I had the same theory as to why, but I hope it's not true.
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« Reply #109 on: March 17, 2008, 07:12:44 AM »

Yeah, I noticed that. Wasn't sure what to make of it, so didn't really think to bring it up. I'm doubtful of the romantic relationship. (At the grave site, Sun seemed too attached to Jin still to be involved with another man, especially an affair, if Jin's still alive.)

I'd think it more likely that Hurley was simply glad that the others weren't there because of all the screwed-up relationship stuff that they'd be dragging behind them. If you just want to have a nice visit, enjoying the birth of a new baby, you don't need folks around who'll just bring the drama.
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« Reply #110 on: March 17, 2008, 07:47:43 PM »

Hurley and Sun? Didn't see that angle at all. LOL
Don't even care to think about that.
Hurley is fairly happy to do things alone, I didn't see anything strange about this reaction. I'm awaiting the whole Desmond vs. Widmore confrontation that's bound to happen now that the captain has revealed that info to Desmond. That should really send things into high gear. I'm really curious what the Captain might have been lying about...seeing as all indications tell us 'the captain is not to be trusted'.
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« Reply #111 on: March 18, 2008, 11:56:57 AM »

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I'm really curious what the Captain might have been lying about...seeing as all indications tell us 'the captain is not to be trusted'.

Only from the perception of Michael, who has been indoctrinated by Ben. Where Ben seems to be just as trustworthy as Widmore, at this point.
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« Reply #112 on: March 18, 2008, 12:03:25 PM »

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I'm really curious what the Captain might have been lying about...seeing as all indications tell us 'the captain is not to be trusted'.

Only from the perception of Michael, who has been indoctrinated by Ben. Where Ben seems to be just as trustworthy as Widmore, at this point.

You're assuming that Michael left them the note. Which could be right or could be wrong. Wink
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« Reply #113 on: March 18, 2008, 12:14:10 PM »

Well Regina was guarding the door last time we saw the outside of said door. Then again she could've been looking for some chains while the note had been slipped through the door-vent. Man, how crazy that whole suicide sequence was.

It doesn't seem like it matters much now, but notice how George was the first on the freighter to be contacted via the Sat-Phone, then Regina--who said that George was "unavailable" (presumably after his temporal-rift side-effects had manifested). Now both are dead; not that I think that this bears anything ominous for anyone who has used the Sat-Phone. I just thought I'd point that out.
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« Reply #114 on: March 18, 2008, 12:32:05 PM »

For those of us that just finished reading "Cell" by Stephen King, that does indeed sound quite ominous. Wink
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« Reply #115 on: March 19, 2008, 06:33:19 AM »

Quote from: john.christian
notice how George was the first on the freighter to be contacted via the Sat-Phone, then Regina--who said that George was "unavailable" (presumably after his temporal-rift side-effects had manifested). Now both are dead; not that I think that this bears anything ominous for anyone who has used the Sat-Phone. I just thought I'd point that out.

Very perceptive!
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« Reply #116 on: March 21, 2008, 03:11:42 PM »

[...]
I'm really curious what the Captain might have been lying about...seeing as all indications tell us 'the captain is not to be trusted'.

Only from the perception of Michael, who has been indoctrinated by Ben. Where Ben seems to be just as trustworthy as Widmore, at this point.

not so... some of the crew (was it Faraday?) even warned them not to trust the captain.

Last night's episode was great! I felt like it actually answered some of my top questions without throwing in TOO MANY more. GREAT! NOw.....who killed Rouseau!?
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« Reply #117 on: March 21, 2008, 03:29:24 PM »

[...]
I'm really curious what the Captain might have been lying about...seeing as all indications tell us 'the captain is not to be trusted'.

Only from the perception of Michael, who has been indoctrinated by Ben. Where Ben seems to be just as trustworthy as Widmore, at this point.

not so... some of the crew (was it Faraday?) even warned them not to trust the captain.

I don't remember anyone else besides Michael warning them not to trust The Captain. Could you tell when anyone else did?

Last night's episode was great! I felt like it actually answered some of my top questions without throwing in TOO MANY more. GREAT! NOw.....who killed Rouseau!?

I have two theories:

1. Ben had instructed The Others to kill Eric(?) and Rouseau once they and Alex arrived. This way he can have Alex to himself and not worry about her getting pregnant.

2. The, probable, mercenaries from the boat are now on The Island (as part of Lapidus' "errand" from the last episode) were the ones shooting at them. I believe this is who Alex believes are the ones who shot at them and this could be why she said "Don't shoot! I'm Ben's daughter! I'm his daughter!" Of course The Others would already know that she's his daughter, so why else would she yell this?
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« Reply #118 on: March 21, 2008, 04:19:28 PM »

The Sniper:

Either Ben set something up with the others, or it is the Mercs from the boat.

Both good guesses!

It is obvious that Alex thinks it's the Mercs since she shouted she was Ben's daughter, but it didn't look like she saw anyone yet, so she's just guessing too.

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« Reply #119 on: March 22, 2008, 07:39:57 AM »

Good theories!

Re: trusting the captain...I could have sworn that message on the note to Sayid/Desmond was the second warning. Didn't Frank tell them to watch out for the captain? Besides...who was it they said 'if so and so answers the sat-phone, just hang up'. Someone they didn't want to talk to.
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