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Dave Richards
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« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2005, 08:58:16 AM »

I sure hope so. I sure hope... so.
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« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2005, 09:31:52 AM »

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I think we've all agreed that having tastyfresh.com be in any sort of leadership role is not going to work. I think some people have taken what was a brainstorm to me, and have suddenly made it out as if I think it's God's will

Not at all, these are reservations I have based on the way things have been handled in the past on Tasty (Which we don't need to get into) and have nothing to do with what you said.  You have a great idea, and I support it.  I'm not saying it's God's will, and I'm not saying it's bad either.  I just threw out some thoughts about it, or basically was brainstorming back.

In regards to the Electric Circus only playing commercial music, I never meant for what I posted to seem that way, but I was rushing to write the post at 2am and it came out wrong.  I meant to say Radio U instead of Electric Circus, and basically meant it the way you explained it.

Sorry I said it wrong and got under your skin, but I think now that you have cleared up any misconceptions I might have caused about your show by my mis-wording it should all be fixed.



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« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2005, 09:51:14 AM »

Believe me, no hard feelings. Text can be a neccessary evil sometimes. Smiley
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« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2005, 01:32:44 PM »

A lot of the concepts from these groups came as part of a discussion between Carey, Rish, Saryn and myself over the past week. Below is a portion of the posts regarding these fellowships. These have been moved from the Help Andy Hunter! thread and merged here.
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« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2005, 03:21:16 PM »

wow...that was a lot of reading.  great points by all, and very interesting. 

but, could all of this have been caused by the fact that dance music as a whole, christian or not, is just not what it used to be?  it peaked in the 90's, and so did TF.  but now, at least in my opinion, dance music is dying...or just really, really, really, underground.  could it be that the dance music era has already past and we're just trying to revive it for the sake of saving what we personally enjoy?  i know it will never truly be dead. no genre of music is dead. there are always groups of people who enjoy different things, but it may be like trying to revive disco...it's not gonna happen in the near future.

i dunno...thats just the way i feel about it. 
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« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2005, 06:45:31 PM »

The idea of a "Rave" is, but as long as there are video games, I suspect there will be dance music and fans. The clubs also didn't die after disco and they existed long befor it was even created. It's hard to think that dance music would ever die since people have been dancing since time began.
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« Reply #51 on: June 09, 2005, 01:41:13 AM »

Hey all, I've been reading what you've all been writing. I've got a few thoughts.

I agree with praying, there's no point in striving to do anything that God's not a part of, that being said I'm all about having fun in my freedom to do whatever edifies in Christ. I'm thinking of starting a music thing in Detroit. I've started a few "band" ish weekly music forums that basically helped some of us develop in skill or songwriting or prepared some for bands.. but I think it would be cool to get together for drum cricles, or spinoffs, or just sharing our songs with one another (like we do in the producing forums but more personal feel).

Anyway, the place I see this all going is not restarting a Rave culture under Christ, but simply more people, especially Worshipers, getting together in the Unity of the Spirit and the Bond of peace. God's kids playing.

Cheers.
More about my thoughts on weekly get togethers once I quit my job. Wink
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« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2005, 01:19:38 PM »

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but I think it would be cool to get together for drum cricles, or spinoffs, or just sharing our songs with one another

awesome...

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Anyway, the place I see this all going is not restarting a Rave culture under Christ, but simply more people, especially Worshipers, getting together in the Unity of the Spirit and the Bond of peace. God's kids playing.

wordup, that's dope
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« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2005, 11:09:00 AM »

whoa, this thread is worthy of a book.

To edify: don't forget your vision, whatever the L-rd has planted in you.

Mine resembles the infamous scene in the Matrix II, but the manifestation, the actualization of the Ruach moving and preparing for victory (reminder: I like poetry).

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« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2005, 02:37:28 PM »

I value all of your comments but Dave's comments about the "church" not supporting Xian Dance is absolutley valid. I'd liken it to early believers venturing beyond Israel into Gentile territory to spread the Gospel. Let the church be the church and pray for new churches to spring up that acommodate our goals and vision. I've had this on my heart for a while now, to start a church explicitly for the disaffected dance scene. I'm praying and please pray with me that this is God's will and not just my bright idea. We'll see fruit if it is of God and failure and frustration if not. I believe God is sending us out to the clubs and events to sow seeds of faith. It's incredible to me that I can sit with someone and talk about God with flashing lights, pounding beats and swirls of fog and cigarrette smoke all around us.
God is there whether we are or not and I'd rather be in God's purpose and design that away from it.
Have I been a "perfect" witness??? Hell no but I think people know who I am and what I'm about.
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I'm with Dave(Redsavior), Let's get out there!

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« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2005, 07:52:03 PM »

I believe God is sending us out to the clubs and events to sow seeds of faith. It's incredible to me that I can sit with someone and talk about God with flashing lights, pounding beats and swirls of fog and cigarrette smoke all around us.God is there whether we are or not and I'd rather be in God's purpose and design that away from it.  I'm with Dave(Redsavior), Let's get out there!

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Weird thing you mention this. I went out to a massive this weekend after not going to a party in over a year. Not so great of an experience. Maybe its because I've changed, maybe its because the scene in SoCal has changed but I couldn't help but to be very uncomfortable. The crowd was very young for the most part and I cant help remember how "impressionable" I was at that age so it hurt to see so many kids sprawled out on the floor rolling hard. I just kept thinking "like a thief in the night". I remember how great it felt to be lost and led by the drugs and music. Yet so many of these kids have no idea the path they are choosing. So during the party I felt the Lord put something on my heart that I'd like to try in the respect of "planting seeds". I thought it would be cool to go through rooms passing out water with scripture verses imprinted on a sticker or what not. If nothing else it will get the word to a crowd. And maybe even help prevent some overindulged kid from dehydrating. Has anyone else tried anything like this at a party?


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« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2006, 05:20:07 PM »

no but then again i havent been 2 a club in over 5 yrs (especially now that im a christian) but i have 2 admit that that is a good idea now when it comes 2 the scripture part w/ it bein on a sticker, do u create em urself or whats the deal on that?
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« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2006, 05:25:25 PM »

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I thought it would be cool to go through rooms passing out water with scripture verses imprinted on a sticker or what not. If nothing else it will get the word to a crowd. And maybe even help prevent some overindulged kid from dehydrating. Has anyone else tried anything like this at a party?
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Dude.. that is exactly what Jesus would do..That's a great idea, passing out water bottles with tracks or scripture glued to them instead of labels. Dunno how your going to get them in but that idea is right on track.
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« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2006, 09:22:46 PM »

Actually, that's exactly what Jorge of Antidote did for a while. It worked fairly well, but it ate him up inside because of what he say going on there.
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« Reply #59 on: January 12, 2006, 10:43:13 AM »

My suggestion is don't just pass them out. Talk to them about it later that night. "Hey, did you read what the bottle said? You got any questions? Are you happy? Really? Are you still pissed off at your dad? Can I have your phone number and call you in a couple of days?"

Oh, but if you are a guy, don't do this with girls, and if you're a girl, don't do this with guys. I have seen a marriage end becasue of this, and I've also seen be too much of a temptation. Descipleship should be done in twos. Don't go alone. Girls ministering to girls, boys ministering to boys. I can't tell you how many times some hot underdressed candy kid has licked me, or wanted to massage me.

We used to just get backstage (It's not hard) and minister to DJs and get into the VIP room and steal their water. Well, not steal, just take a bunch of it and hand it out. We'd always carry one that we filled up with water from the bathroom in case someone couldn't stand up and walk themselves.

Just so you know, the VIP room is usually much more intense and yucky than what's going on outside.

Research how to talk people down from a bad candy flip. Find out how to help someone recover from a "K-Hole". Be able to watch for signs that someone is about to wig out. Be prepared to get puked on and peed on. Wake people up that are sleeping and know where the emergency team or tent or area is in case they don't quite wake up.

Just because you have never done x or acid or green or whatever doesn't mean that you can't help. It's never about the drug, it's always about relationships.

And if they start to tell you that they hate God or he's not real, find out who hurt them. Someone in their life damaged their view. Be prepared to be real. Don't pretent to know the answer, but make sure that you contact them in a couple days with it.

If they are rolling (ecstacy), then they will be coming down pretty hard in two or three days, and will need some support. Most people don't get this much needed support from who they thought really cared about them, and feel very alone...a lot of it is because they have depleted their seratonin.

Oh, and don't take drugs. And bring your own lollypops. And don't drink water from someone elses bottle. You could get very very sick.

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