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Mister G
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« on: January 02, 2008, 02:04:59 PM »

I'm wondering what people have experienced when talking to youth ministers about including Christian dance music as a part of the lock-ins and other big youth events that they organize. I'm planning to approach some youth ministers from my denomination about doing this. United Methodists tend to be less socially conservative than most denominations so I don't think that dancing in church is taboo to our youth ministers (I might be wrong).

It sounded like people had not had good experiences at all with trying to organize dance events at church. I just thought that if there was an event with other activities already planned like a lock-in and some sort of dance element were added, it might go better than trying to have a dance party as a stand-alone event.

What have folks experienced with this? Does it seem like something that could work at all? Or is it disaster waiting to happen?

I guess I'm pretty invested in trying to put the club in the church rather than the church in the club because I got pretty burned in the secular music world in the past. When I had an indie rock band, I never felt like I could keep up with the 20 year old indie kids who delivered pizzas or bar-tended so they could go to each others' shows every single night of the week. I was doing well to get my band to agree to one or two shows a month. I feel like the level of schmoozing I would have to do to be successful in the very limited dance club scene around here wouldn't work with the time I need for my family and friends. I'm not a clubber and nobody I'm good friends with is; but I really like to make the music. I feel this strong sense of calling around it and that's the only basis I have for thinking that it will ever go anywhere other than my study.

I don't know why I wrote all that. I think just to lay out what's behind the way I want to do things. I know that God would lead me to where he wants me to go and I've just got to keep on praying and typing internet posts and listening for his guidance.

Thanks for any advice or encouragement, Mr. G
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2008, 02:16:52 PM »

I don't have that much to share with you about it except that it is an extremely difficult process no matter how you attempt it. Bringing the club activity inside a church is hard for two reasons;

1] if you try and have a dance party as a stand alone event in the church, it always fails because no one shows up.

2] if you try and combine it with another large event already going on, then most of the people there WONT be interested in a dance party. christians that enjoy dance music and dancing at parties are hard to come by.

the only advice i would offer is that if you do the dance party within a large event, it would have to be optional to go, and that there were other things going on at the same time in other rooms, so the people that don't want to attend that can do other things.

the larger event as a whole would also have to be EXTREMELY large, because only a very small percentage of people would likely enjoy the dance portion.

i have firsthand experience at helping coordinate an event (type 1) that failed big time.
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2008, 02:47:23 PM »

what keith said:

i think the wisest way to do it is to have dance music playing as part of the main room, which could also have games,inflatables, et al.  have a dance stage as part of it, not as the main thing.

OR if you do bands, you could have a DJ as either one of the acts or spinning in between the bands OR as part of a worship set.

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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2008, 08:37:45 PM »

I've had good luck doing church dances in the past....(I just didn't play trance music till the end)

I used to be the swing night DJ at Murray Hill where after 10 years the 90's swing movement is still alive-ish....  I would get calls from churches that wanted to have their own dance night at their church...

Here is a small rundown of how I did things...(in order)
~Pre show swing music
~20 minute lesson
~A few group dances
~more swing dancing with a little mambo/cha cha added

~afterparty:
super cheezy stuff like the cha cha slide, cotton eyed joe, YMCA, crap like that....  You can throw some really cheezy stuff like Vanilla Ice and the kids will get a kick out of it..... Once you've done that for a while and the kids have lost most of their self respect, then you can experiment around with trance/breakbeat stuff - you can even throw out some glowsticks from stage.... Don't expect the kids to get in "rave mode" (like that movie "Groove")... They will dance to cool upbeat electronic stuff....

Yeah, it won't be a rave but this is how its worked in the past for me.
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