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risher is spot on.

True Dat


I agree.  What should we do if we see a fellow Christian who is a DJ with their life in shambles possibly because they are so driven to become something in the DJ arena that our Father hasn't called them to?




I agree.  I would be curious to know how much evangelism has been done successfully this way.  Where the rubber meets the road.  Don't take this as negative.  I am for this type of evangelism.  I just think that the Kingdom strategy should be the focus.  I know it is easy to get caught up in the "Rock N Roll" fantasy along with all the other DJ's, Promoters, and such.  I've seen more talk of strategy for everything else is all.


This is a great discussion!  How do we do this in all clubs?  Assuming you have been given the go ahead by the Holy Spirit to evangelize that sphere of influence.

again, your focus is completely off...

its not about spreading an anit-anything message.  its about spreading a Life message.  we are not here to condemn but to bring life.  and that life is Christ.  And to my knowledge, Shiloh were not having gay sex so i dont think their actions compromised anything.

Also, I think you may have overlooked a key word in my quote: "relationships" 

We cannot expect people to be open and willing to accept Christ as their personal savior by drive-by evangelism.  I was a target of that not to long ago in a Target (ironic) parking lot.  The woman asked if i knew Christ.  I said "Yes, He's amazing." and then she said, ok pray this prayer.  i just stared at her for a little and started laughing. she didnt care at all about me.  it seemed it was about the numbers to her.  after her prayer she handed me a tract and drove off...she did not once get out of her car.  it was humorous...but sad all at once. 

Far too often we try to make reaching out to people a simple thing, when it is not.  We are up against an unseen enemy that is powerful, but not as powerful as Christ in us.  Relationships will show a person that you do care for them, and as they begin to know you, they will begin to see that you have a hope in something they have never known.  And through a relationship you can see people through and give them continued wisdom and advice instead of making them say a prayer and then leaving to fend for themselves.  That is the power if going into these places.



I cannot answer that question, and neither can you.  And it is not our place to.  Did Shiloh interact with people?  probably.  will those interactions turn into relationships in which they can minister through?  who knows? 

I have another mix I put together. Its very very housey.

I'll have to compile a track listing in a bit but it features:

Lucious Lowe - Creator Remix
pete le freq
India/Masters at Work
Yass
Miguel Migs

It should be up on Cast The Fire. Christopher Carl will let ya know.

Well it's like being asked to spin in a gay club. What do you do? You can either go spin a gospel house set and see what happens, or risk spinning songs about "love" in an attempt to deliver a message about salvation and have it mistranslated as a song about homosexual love.

Unless you have the balls to stand up for what you believe in an appropriate way when people come talk to you after the set.

Jesus went to a wedding and turned water into wine. The choice wine, I might add. I'm sure that people got drunk off that wine. Does that make Jesus a sin-condoner? Or does it make him a person who says: "Look at what miracles God can perform?"

So how do we "turn water into wine" at a gay club or pride parade without A) directly condoning sin, and without B) hating on the homosexuals themselves?

I'd even argue that it's pointless to hate on their sin too. Because of "gay pride", taking the angle of pointing out their sin isn't really going to get you anything but a closed door. Rather, the "all have sinned and fallen short" angle is way more appropriate, because you aren't singling out their "gay sin" over your own "straight sin". Besides, the gospel is more about salvation and grace than sin. Sin is the catalyst, but salvation is the reaction and the springboard into true life.

You're totally right. And I believe on the flipside, if you ARE called by God to be in the clubs, then do it to your fullest extent. And other Christians should support the calling on another brother's life.

Was the gospel spread?  How many participants in the homosexual pride parade knew they were representing christ?  I don't know but that is a question Shiloh needs to ask themselves. 

Personally I haven't had much success witnessing when I have DJ'ed at clubs.  I have had success (seeing people ministered to or giving their lives to Jesus) in DJing evangelistic events.  I don't think every christian who is a DJ is supposed to be DJing a club scene.  Again I think that the numbers are fewer than we would like to think.  Because we all wanna be on the bill with Tiesto, Deadmau5, or whoever we fancy. I think there could be some "self seeking" involved.  You better here clearly, without doubt from the Spirit of God that you are called to spin in clubs  Otherwise you could end up in divorce, losing your kids, become addicted to drugs, or out of fellowship with your Father in Heaven because you are entrenched in an attitude of opposition to what He wants for you.

Yup.
Gal. 5:16-21

But I say, through the instrumentality of the Spirit habitually order your manner of life, and you will in no wise execute the passionate desire of the evil nature, for the evil natue constantly has a strong desire to suppress, the Spirit, and the Spirit constantly has a strong desire to suppress the evil nature. And these are entrenched in an attitude of mutual opposition to one another so that you may not do the things that you deire to do. But if you are being led by the Spirit you are not under the law. Now the works of the evil nature are well known, works of such a nature as, for example, fornication, uncleanness, wantonness, idolatry, witchcraft, enmities, strife, jealousy, angers, self-seekings, divisions, factions, envyings, drunkenness, carousings, and the things of such a nature which are like these things, respecting which things I am telling you beforehand even as I told you in advance, that those who are in the habit of practicing things of that nature shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
*italics mine*