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Title: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Christopher Carl on May 26, 2007, 06:53:56 PM
I ask the question because I am at a point right now where I feel I can't focus on the station, and Jason who moved here in Kansas can't pay the Shoutcast hosting fees right now. This made me sit back and think of something else.

During the last week or so the computer where OneLifeRadio is broadcast from was disconnected at various times from the internet due to some network issues we were having. I would love to tell you that we had a bunch of emails asking why the station wasn't on the air, etc. That wasn't the case. Not one email. Nobody noticed. This has not been the first time. There have been other times recently when the station had to be down for some reason and nobody emailed to find out anything. This has cause me to wonder whether or not we are doing our job well enough to provide you with a solid lineup with great music OR whether or not people (in general) simply just don't listen to us due to whatever reasons.

I'm beginning to wonder whether or not it is in my best interest to continue to run this station. If I am putting efforts into building a station that has no listeners, then what is the point of it existing? Make no mistake, Radio is a passion of mine, always has been. However, putting energy into something unnoticed is silly. If no one hears a song played, was it really played? I probably sound silly, but I will be examining the station over the course of the next few days. I will be looking at stats and seeing just how much this station gets listeners. From there, I will more than likely make the decision to close One Life Radio for good. This station first went live on December 31, 2004 and has made valiant efforts to provide something meaningful, yet fun to listen to. I believe we have achieved that.

If someone else out there is interested in keep it alive, email me.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Dave Richards on May 26, 2007, 08:31:42 PM
The best way to tell if you are being "effective" on the web is check your logs. They will tell you what you need/want to know. Email is unreliable, but always nice to get.

Beyond that, why not look into podcasting instead of streaming? Have a talk with Oneel about what that will take.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Digital Aura on May 26, 2007, 09:18:15 PM
So sad on so many levels.
I don't think you're far off in assuming it doesn't get much traffic. There's soooo much out there...how to get noticed is a problem.
I really hope your research proves us wrong, but I'm not sure it's actually worth your hard work. I know you and your help do a lot of work on all this. It pains me to learn this. I thought you had hundreds of listeners. It's likely 5 or 6 people though right?
urgh...    :smiley6:


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Mike on May 26, 2007, 10:48:34 PM
 :P, I personally have never tuned into to any of the programs, not because I didnt like the music, only because I prefer Podcasts. Podcasts are better for me because my I-Tunes picks them up and d/ls the show and I can listen to them when Im not watching cartoons or movies. One of my fav shows is the "Blend" Good track selection and its fun to listen to. I always look foward to d/ling the shows on the weekends. I definately think you should keep the programs going, its good stuff.  8)


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Dave Richards on May 26, 2007, 10:53:22 PM
The best way to tell if you are being "effective" on the web is check your logs. They will tell you what you need/want to know. Email is unreliable, but always nice to get.

Beyond that, why not look into podcasting instead of streaming? Have a talk with Oneel about what that will take.

I'm a moron. I know you podcast "The Show" but I'm thinking about EVERYTHING.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: dj_ru on May 27, 2007, 09:05:25 AM
I understand what you're saying Chris,  I know you put alot of effort into OneLife Radio which I have very much appreciated. 

I love listening to it (as does Clank) although can't listen to the live shows because of the time difference which is a shame as we would probably listen alot more if these shows were on earlier (UK times).

I think that if it was just a financial issue then that can be overcome as we would like to help out on that score as would other people I suspect.  On the other hand if it's not getting the ears then that's a question of:

1)  Has OLR been given enough time to show what it can do (probably not as things are really getting going with new shows, djs etc)

2)  Is there a way of changing the programme times so more people can be reached around the world?

Just a few thoughts anyway...

You get our support whatever you choose to do.

dj ru & Clank


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Clank on May 27, 2007, 09:58:41 AM
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Nobody noticed. This has not been the first time. There have been other times recently when the station had to be down for some reason and nobody emailed to find out anything.

I listen to OLR at some point during most weekdays.  I've noticed when it's down and/or running at a low bitrate (and when it's running well!) which I did leave a post about on the OLR forum as you probably remember. I wouldn't email as I wouldn't want it to feel like I'm complaining.

We have links to OLR from our own Aloft site and Shoutlife pages and have told our friends to listen!  It would be sad if it shuts down fully but podcasts would be a way to still keep producing shows and showcasing new artists/tracks.

Clank    :)


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Christopher Carl on May 27, 2007, 11:11:16 AM
Thank you all for your honesty. I needed to read that. We are not getting the listeners we hoped for. The station has been alive for over 3 years and has never managed to really take off. the peak times we get listeners is when a show like "Blend" is live and those nights I am constantly posting on message boards announcing that I am doing something live.

Podcasting is something I have been considering. If I did that, it would not be under the One Life Radio name, simply because radio is live broadcasting and podcasting is on demand. I definitely want the shows to live on, but streaming is not the format for it right now.

I am considering options, but I am confident that OLR will close indefinitely as of Monday.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: dj_ru on May 27, 2007, 02:15:46 PM
Sorry to hear that but we understand your reasons.    :'(

We pray that God will guide your direction and maybe in the future the live Radio thing will be appropriate.

dj ru & Clank


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: L8-01 on May 27, 2007, 02:32:17 PM
When God closes one door He opens another I strongly believe that Chris and have seen so many times Him doing this in my life so be prepared when that door swings wide open and be excited


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Doug Theodore on May 27, 2007, 02:39:56 PM
um yeah... i would miss it terribly.  I gig out but right now my favorite gig is my sunday night show on Oneliferadio.  I mean that seriously.  It really has been a big blessing to me.

doug theodore


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Chris Harrington on May 27, 2007, 07:40:08 PM
hmm well, that rly sucks to be honest i never really tuned in (actually im tuned in right now for the first time and cant understand why noone would be listening. Im rly digging it gonna start listening more often) because i only found out about it a few months ago and when i had a look it didnt seem like you had an electro house show which is what i listen to. My plan was to submit a demo for a show to change that (actually just sent it a few mins ago lol). Well i would like to c it kept alive because there isnt many good christian DJ shows let alone a radio station. I am willing to help with anything that i can. Just PM me if u need anything  8)


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Christopher Carl on May 28, 2007, 12:45:36 AM
well Jason (dj66) sent me an rather encouraging email. It's funny, Saturday we both pretty much agreed that the time had come to shut it down. However, Tonight (Sunday) after Doug's show I fell we should keep it alive for sometime until Cornerstone at least. Maybe God is doing something and it took my post for Him to open some doors.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Christopher Carl on May 28, 2007, 02:14:34 AM
let's move this discussion over here: http://www.technochristian.com/forums/technochristian-radio/topic-29/

By the way, these are the official OLR forums.  ;)


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Chris Harrington on May 28, 2007, 03:57:50 PM
btw i wanted to ask a question. Is the main problem with the station funding or that ur not getting listeners? (i have something to say but i would like to know the answer to that first.)


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Christopher Carl on May 28, 2007, 11:45:54 PM
listeners. money isn't really a problem. we have no overheard and only pay for shoutcast hosting at this point.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Responsible T on May 29, 2007, 12:53:35 AM
Chris and Jason-
A great show might be live at Cstone recorded on md.  I will be more than willing to lend you my minidisc player for recording the generator stage with your commentary on the mic/interviews after the sets of the Artists/DJ's.  What do you think?  I will have to be at the Gospel for Asia booth during the generator stage hours most likely but can pop in now and again for a chat and say hey to everyone.  I have been recording the stage for the past two years and providing the video and audio, hopefully we can do it again this year as OLR's Cstone EXRAVAGANZA!!  Then you can play it on OLR as recorded live either streamed or podcasted either way you like :)


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: L8-01 on May 29, 2007, 05:20:53 AM
thougth it was worth posting here to. How about ask most to send message out through myspace most ppl have up to 1000 friends even if you get a 5% audience off that, thats a massive amount.

# Posted by reborn 16 hours ago


SO just send out a bulliten through myspace it only takes  a couple of minutes


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Christopher Carl on May 29, 2007, 06:13:24 AM
Chris and Jason-
A great show might be live at Cstone recorded on md.  I will be more than willing to lend you my minidisc player for recording the generator stage with your commentary on the mic/interviews after the sets of the Artists/DJ's.  What do you think?  I will have to be at the Gospel for Asia booth during the generator stage hours most likely but can pop in now and again for a chat and say hey to everyone.  I have been recording the stage for the past two years and providing the video and audio, hopefully we can do it again this year as OLR's Cstone EXRAVAGANZA!!  Then you can play it on OLR as recorded live either streamed or podcasted either way you like :)
great idea. in my experience, a lot of the big name dj's don't want thier sets recorded or if they agree, they dont want them broadcast and/or available for download. This could be because they have promo's that can't leak out just yet, or agreements with thier labels, or just because they don't want it available.

I'd love to do this.

I will be bringing my laptop and minidisc recorder, plus jason will have his laptop, so I think we are covered for recording. Thanks for the offer.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: deeflash on May 29, 2007, 06:57:28 AM
maybe if you can't record the sets maybe do some interviews while you're there?

I think some interesting interviews would be with artists but also with some cornerstone veterens, newbies, and newcomers to the dance barns' first impressions...  maybe just a "OneLifeRadio Covering Cornerstone" show

Getting some music in from Cornerstone would be great but if you can't do tha tmaybe just some coverage for the people who won't be there or for those of us who will be there to listen to when we get home and be like, "I remember that!"   ;D


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Dave Richards on May 29, 2007, 07:02:04 AM
A great show might be live at Cstone recorded on md.

It depends... some of the DJs performing Cstone have clauses in their contracts that will prevent the recording or video taping of their sets. Most of the ones with laptops have special proprietary setups that they don't want leaked out and those who place CDs/records don't want people to know all of their tricks including exclusive tracks.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Dave Richards on May 29, 2007, 07:04:05 AM
I will be bringing my laptop and minidisc recorder, plus jason will have his laptop, so I think we are covered for recording. Thanks for the offer.

Coordinate this with Jeremy and Kevin. If they say no... the answer is no.

Still given Cstone's history of approved and encouraged bootlegging... the way we're protesting this is very odd. :)


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: deeflash on May 29, 2007, 07:30:42 AM
A great show might be live at Cstone recorded on md.

It depends... some of the DJs performing Cstone have clauses in their contracts that will prevent the recording or video taping of their sets. Most of the ones with laptops have special proprietary setups that they don't want leaked out and those who place CDs/records don't want people to know all of their tricks including exclusive tracks.

yea I object to any recordings because I don't want anyone to know that I use an echo indigo dj, m-audio trigger finger, and behringer bcr2000 with an ableton live set and mostly all built-in plugins and stuff that is found on abletonlivedj.com...

woops now that I let that information slip... I guess you can record my set if you want... ;-)

just kiddin, I'm sure guys like 3kstatic and such have some pretty interesting setups that a lot of people (including myself) would love to see in use...


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Dave Richards on May 29, 2007, 07:35:54 AM
I just find it funny that you can't really find a large number of "how to set up a live pa in ableton" articles out there. There are some posts on message boards. There are some posts about preparing samples. But nobody seems to have written one talking about how to integrate your gear and build the template.

Very odd if you ask me.

I mean... you can find several on DJ templates. Come on!


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: deeflash on May 29, 2007, 07:44:41 AM
I just find it funny that you can't really find a large number of "how to set up a live pa in ableton" articles out there. There are some posts on message boards. There are some posts about preparing samples. But nobody seems to have written one talking about how to integrate your gear and build the template.

Very odd if you ask me.

I mean... you can find several on DJ templates. Come on!

yeah well 6 months ago there were none on dj templates lol 

But with Live PA it seems a lot more likely to be "depends on how you want it setup" answers...


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Dave Richards on May 29, 2007, 08:21:24 AM
well... there should be some "what you should think about" articles.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: djvicar on May 29, 2007, 08:52:18 AM
I listen about once a week. But like clank and ru being form uk would lsiten more at uk times. Not that i would expect u to move everything to our time but form a global perspective saw poential for this to develop in the future.

As far as podcast goes how about each dj/show doing the their show as a podcast but under the onelife radio banner? The website could hold all the feed links for each dj and show and each podcast would be linked by onelife radio.

I would be very interested in doing this, As you know i wanted to get more involved with onelife radio but had to be realistic about how much i could commit. I currently have my own podcast and would be interested in doing it under the onelife banner.

There are more and more podcasts being made all the time and would be good to start doing something collaboratively rather than individually. Of course thats what u guys have already been doing!

I realise you said until cornerstone, but please dont shutdown al together!


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Chris Harrington on May 29, 2007, 09:33:32 AM
listeners. money isn't really a problem. we have no overheard and only pay for shoutcast hosting at this point.

ok im just gonna throw this out there and you may not agree but this is the way i look at most things that i do. Even if only one person is listening, if you making an affect on that person then i would consider the station a sucess. Thats just the way i look at things i do in life. Now if the problem was funding then obviously the stiuation would be different. Anyway i have been promoting the station a bit in the past few days for you and will keep doing so 8)

good luck with everything  :)


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Oneel on May 29, 2007, 10:23:04 AM
As far as the main stage goes,  the only ones who can't be recorded are Stryke and Kenneth.  I don't think everyone else would have a problem with it.  The only BTU clauses are we control the rights to our audio recordings (which I'm giving OLR permission to use),  and no videotaping of us from behind while playing and no close up photography of our setups.

And if listeners is your problem,  then that can be solved!  I'll email ya more info.  Let's make this thing work!


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Mike on May 29, 2007, 02:14:13 PM
 :P With all due respect, whats the big deal about some DJ's not wanting thier sets recorded? Aside from all the bla bla, if it can be recorded then why not, I mean exposure is exposure, no one is as big as Paul Van Dyke, or Tiesto...yet. So in the meantime why not just do it or this can be done. Record the sets as a doube disc and sell it or just one with all the different DJ's and stuff like a promo and it can help with financing stuff for next years C Stone. But I respct those who do not want to be recorded for w/e reason thats ok. Goodluk to all who play at the Barn.  8)


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Dave Richards on May 29, 2007, 02:37:25 PM
Mystery. If people knew how bad they really sounded in a venue, nobody would go see them. unless you get a line out feed to an MD, you're just not going to have a really good recording and the dj will not sound his best. Period. I don't know about you, but I don't want to sound bad.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Oneel on May 29, 2007, 03:11:50 PM
A heckofa lot of oit has to do with advance tracks.  Here's the chain of events: someone plays a pre-release track that is included in a recorded set,  set is posted online,  someone hears banging new track and has to play it,  person realizes track isn't available,  person rips track from live set,  person plays track in recorded set,  and the cycle starts over again.

Thusly,  the track has already been distributed before the label had a chance to make a buck.  Bad,  bad juju.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: DJ Pat D on May 29, 2007, 03:30:55 PM
I say buy some XM radio air-time. I spoke to someone who has a show on Family Talk 170 and they are paying 5 Grand a month for 2 hours X 5 days a week. Maybe you can present the show to Salem.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Coosh on May 29, 2007, 04:52:58 PM
Salem would never go for it...they're way too conservative...they shut down a mixshow that we did on a CCM station in San Francisco...


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Dave Richards on May 29, 2007, 08:53:53 PM
yeah... Salem is not very open-minded. although... here in Atlanta, for some reason.. they occasionally play secular music on their station. I find that VERY odd.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: natefrogg on May 30, 2007, 12:20:27 AM
i'm sorry this is happening

honestly, i've never helped though, i don't think i've ever tuned in to the show, maybe once or so but i really do not recall

the way it is for me, even though i'm in front of a computer constantly due to work, i rarely listen to streaming stations, when i do it's sporadic and not planned so there's no way i'd be on regularly to listen to a show

what i do do often, is download mixes and put them on the ipod/other devices/etc...

if the mixes happen to show up in a place i frequent, and they're styles i dig, then i end up getting them, otherwise i don't


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Christopher Carl on May 30, 2007, 12:25:40 AM
yeah, I am taking a lot of information and advice in. we'll get this worked out.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Dave Richards on May 30, 2007, 08:09:48 AM
Nate just gave you the solid argument for a podcast.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: DJ Salty Flavor on May 30, 2007, 10:02:18 AM
Honestly I would miss "The Show" - but I only download the show podcast as mentioned in another post when Itunes automatically looks for the latest one.  I don't listen to OLR but I do listen to the podcasts regularly.  I put it on my IPod and listen to it in my car.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: djvicar on May 30, 2007, 12:22:34 PM
So how about the podcast idea!!! :-X
I mean each show as podcast. Which wouldnt have to rule out never streaming just until there was more support for u guys in delvering the streaming?


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Christopher Carl on May 30, 2007, 05:24:47 PM
AS I mentioned, I have been considering the podcast thing. The Show and Blend will continue as a podcast. However I am still leaning to keepin OLR alive. I am thinking what I will do is do regional programming for each corner of the world. AKA, Here in the states, we will keep our programming the same time. In the UK, I will bring on some people there to do programming for thier time zone, etc....
When there is no live programming, the station would be off the air.

I will probably run the website strictly as a hub for podcasts.


Title: Re: What are your thoughts if One Life Radio weren't around?
Post by: Christopher Carl on June 05, 2007, 05:22:27 AM
as mentioned in my previous post, we are gonna change the primary focus of the station. All should be ready for Cornerstone.