Industry => DJ Board => Topic started by: DJ Billy the Kid on April 10, 2008, 10:30:30 PM



Title: Gear Recommendations
Post by: DJ Billy the Kid on April 10, 2008, 10:30:30 PM
Im Looking to get a set and i currently need a mixer, and some cd turntables as far as i know. I Have speakers but might upgrade them 2 if need be.(especially The Subwoofers)
I have two Technics SL-1200MK2 Turntables. I have a 80 GB laptop with ACID Pro 6.0 on it and would like my equipment to be compatible with it. Budget is 1000-2000$. Oh yeah and i like to spin trance and breakbeats if it helps.
Thank you.


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: ecliptik on April 10, 2008, 10:48:26 PM
Great place to start. I'm sure there will be someone that could give you better options than I. I had to sell my tables for the money at the time, so I decided to go digital with the Torq Xponent, until I can afford tables and a mixer again.


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: strobian on April 11, 2008, 08:20:55 AM
You can get Traktor Scratch style setup for software to use with your computer if you want to be able to spin vinyl w/ 1200's or CDJ's.  Traktor also makes a LE version that comes with some controllers that would allow you to play digital style via a controller like a VCi-100.  The Traktor scratch package is about $500 I think.  Check the specs on your computer for minimum requirements etc.   


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: djvicar on April 12, 2008, 03:31:28 AM
What about recommendations for a mixer?

How about the pioneer 800? Anyone? Something with at least 6 channels and assignable crossfader?




Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: DJ Billy the Kid on April 12, 2008, 08:22:47 PM
What about recommendations for a mixer?

How about the pioneer 800? Anyone? Something with at least 6 channels and assignable crossfader?



Yeah ive been looking at the Pioneer but i poked around on this board and heard Pioneer was of poor quality, but as i look more and more at that 800 it LOOKS good, anybody have experience with it?


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: Dave Richards on April 12, 2008, 08:26:36 PM
pioneer bad on THIS board??? Who said that??? Seriously.


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: Dave Richards on April 12, 2008, 08:29:03 PM
Ok... yeah seriously... this urks me. Pioneer bad??? Then why is it that every single picture with a pro in it using a CD deck is using a pioneer???

Oh wait... pioneer CDs... whoops.

Still... look at the pros. They're using Pioneers or Allen & Heath. You don't see many shots of RANES out there.

Go ahead... find me photos of 5 different pro djs who are mixing on ranes or anything other than a pioneer or A&H.


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: Doug Theodore on April 12, 2008, 09:04:16 PM
pioneers are as solid as A&H and rane.  This is silly. :-[


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: Dave Richards on April 12, 2008, 09:17:34 PM
but great for fightin' words!


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: ecliptik on April 12, 2008, 09:32:42 PM
pioneers are as solid as A&H and rane.  This is silly. :-[

 :-X "and the crowd goes wild!"


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: adamtwelve on April 13, 2008, 01:43:30 AM
my buddy got a pioneer djm 400 and it's really sweet? 


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: djvicar on April 13, 2008, 02:42:15 AM
What about recommendations for a mixer?

How about the pioneer 800? Anyone? Something with at least 6 channels and assignable crossfader?



Yeah ive been looking at the Pioneer but i poked around on this board and heard Pioneer was of poor quality, but as i look more and more at that 800 it LOOKS good, anybody have experience with it?

Yes used them many times in clubs etc. If its in yr budget then you cant go wrong.

We have  used one at revive too.






Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: DJ Billy the Kid on April 13, 2008, 03:42:12 PM


Not really sayin a whole lot to back up your argument pudd.

Here is what I know... if you want to talk about an industry standard, then it's the Rane MP24. Pioneer doesn't even come close as they just even came on the scene in the last 7 or 8 years (don't quote me on the time, but they certainly haven't been around nearly as long as Rane or Urei has) Rane MP24's from the 80's are still running strong in some clubs and the output sound quality is far superior to Pioneer, as a matter of fact the Rane MP24 has been in existence since 1986.. longer than any other mixer currently in production. Why do you think that is? Not to mention the power of the headphone driver, sharp eq's, and the fact that they are linear mixers (you bring the mix in and it is exactly where it is supposed to be on the fader, not slurring in the mix as is typical with Pioneers and other lower quality mixers). The Urei rotary mixers were used in the disco clubs in the late 70's and they are still using the same design technics for a lot of them. Anyone that has attempted to replace a fader or dial on a Pioneer can attest to the fact that the quality is flat out cheap, why do you think the faders break so easily and people are replacing them all the time?? You don't hear about these issues with the other brands I mentioned, because they are quality and built to last. Is there any question why Pioneer keeps "upgrading" their mixer? I can answer that, because they STILL haven't gotten it right. I challenge you to find a DJ that has played on all the brands of mixers I listed and have them say any of these are not of superior sound quality, design, and construction than any Pioneer. Like I mentioned, you want the bells and whistles like the flanger, filter, blah blah.. get an external processor, yes the Pioneers come with these effects.. and the quality on the effects is just as poor as the rest of the thing.

I guess what I'm saying is, if you are going to spend the money then do some research and you will find out what is what. Pioneers should go for about $300-400, they are way overpriced in my opinion

Dude, you're not even making sense. I can appreciate your loyalty to a manufacturer because you have an old receiver that still kicks it for you, that's great. Let me put it this way... Radio Shack also makes receivers, DVD player, DJ mixers, and turntables and they have rapport with consumers and have been around for a long time too... are you going to sit here and tell me that the Radio Shack turntable is better than the Technics or their DJ mixer is superior to any of these I mentioned because they have been in existence for years? Of course not, they are a jack of all trades.. as is Pioneer, however I am sure you've heard the expression "Jack of all trades, master of none." This is Pioneer in a nutshell, as previously mentioned they continue to "improve" on their designs but they haven't mastered anything. The brands I mentioned specialize in audio mixers and professional sound equipment. This is a thread on DJ mixers, not home stereo receivers or DVD players. I would like to know if you have played on the other brands I mentioned and what your thoughts were? (no disrespect intended, I honestly would like to know your thoughts)

I Guess i shouldve looked at the author of those posts more before i said my above comment(one person). But i dont want to get into that heated debate again. That was merely in response to where i heard it. Alright ive got it narrowed down now should i go with the 800 mixer and sacrifice on the CDJs or sacrifice with the 400 mixer and get nice CDJs to go along with it?


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: Alex Wilson on April 13, 2008, 04:26:52 PM
get nice decks. trust me, youll thank me.


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: djvicar on April 14, 2008, 04:44:29 AM
Which cdjs ?

Id go with the pioneer cdj 400s


Title: Re: Gear Recommendations
Post by: DJ Boywonder on April 14, 2008, 05:20:19 PM
Get CDJs, 400's would be my choice because they have the option of playing from the USB port provided and then a decent mixer. Do your research before you go spend the cash on the overpriced PIONEER!
 
-That one person some call the rane guy, even though he doesn't own a rane

btw.. i would much rather be called the rane man :P

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