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Title: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 05, 2008, 01:14:50 PM
Oh man. Everyone see He That Believeth in Me, yet?

Hoooooly crap.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: danking on April 05, 2008, 07:06:52 PM
off to a great start .... loved it!

::dan::


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 05, 2008, 07:26:11 PM
I've been interrupted like 12 times trying to watch it. I'm gonna restart it at 11 pm tonight (i hope)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: noah on April 05, 2008, 07:30:07 PM
watched it with the Jarv (Dancechapel).

NICE.  VERY NICE.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 06, 2008, 03:34:57 AM
This season is going to be excellent.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 06, 2008, 01:45:34 PM
I was quite happy with it. Ty shooting Adama was awesome. He's such a great actor. I can't wait until all the revealed 4 start cracking. Ty killed his wife for working with the cylons to save his life... now he is one. Starbuck says she'll kill her hubby if she ever finds out he's a cylon. I'm not sure about Chief though. And what's her name??? She seems too new to the show to be one, but oh well.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 06, 2008, 01:50:41 PM
Ty shooting Adama was awesome. He's such a great actor. I can't wait until all the revealed 4 start cracking. Ty killed his wife for working with the cylons to save his life... now he is one.

Oh yeah. I almost fell off my chair. He's think of all the setups for revealing that secret, his will be the most painful. Bill trusts him so much.

Starbuck says she'll kill her hubby if she ever finds out he's a cylon.

hehe, that was a good set up too. Saw that one coming, wasn't disappointed.

I'm not sure about Chief though. And what's her name??? She seems too new to the show to be one, but oh well.

The Chief is so solid. Cally's a sweetheart and I could see her handling it, but she also popped a bullet in Boomer, so who knows.  The other girl, yeah... I don't really care. They'll have to do something to make us care.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 07, 2008, 01:34:30 PM
AMAZING!!!!!

Watched it with Noah Saturday!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 07, 2008, 01:38:29 PM
watched it with the Jarv (Dancechapel).

NICE.  VERY NICE.

AMAZING!!!!!

Watched it with Noah Saturday!

Noah's talking to himself again.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 07, 2008, 01:42:04 PM
Like Baltar?

perhaps Noah and I are both members of the final 5?

(http://www.conquestministries.com/dancechapel/images/CylonSmiley.gif)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: noah on April 07, 2008, 08:36:09 PM
Like Baltar?

perhaps Noah and I are both members of the final 5?

(http://www.conquestministries.com/dancechapel/images/CylonSmiley.gif)

this has all happened before, this will all happen again.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: noah on April 07, 2008, 08:36:41 PM
CHIEF IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 08, 2008, 12:52:03 PM
Chief Tyrol rocks


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 08, 2008, 01:09:03 PM
So, let's go there.

Who's the last cylon?

I think it'd be a female, given the current male dominance. If it's male, I'm saying Gaeta. If it's a woman, Deanna Troi.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 08, 2008, 01:17:05 PM
If it's a woman, Deanna Troi.

 :laugh:


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 12, 2008, 11:47:17 AM
Oh man oh man!

"We found these inhibitors... and removed them." Wazahhh!?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 12, 2008, 12:17:24 PM
haha... yeah... I'm sure that wasn't a good move.

So what do we have? A cylon civil war?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: DWord on April 12, 2008, 01:03:25 PM
BSG w00t!
 
Glad to see there's some fans here! That marathon leading up to season 4 has been jamming up my tivo for like a week! Yesterday's episode was intense! #6 is really getting in deep.. some intense drama.

Anyone notice that there's actually 2 human/cylon love children? What about chief Tyrol's baby!!??  :o Im willing to bet thats gonna play a hard line in season 4.

Any bets on who's cylon #5?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 12, 2008, 01:36:11 PM
I kept trying to count the cylon vote. remind me... why were their only 6 not 7 models voting?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 12, 2008, 04:27:26 PM
^ Because they boxed Xena, remember?

Anyone notice that there's actually 2 human/cylon love children? What about chief Tyrol's baby!!??  :o Im willing to bet thats gonna play a hard line in season 4.

Big time.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 12, 2008, 05:46:31 PM
OH... the ENTIRE line. I thought it was just 1 of them. Crap. Nevermind. Makes sense now.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 13, 2008, 12:51:55 AM
So, this episode reminded me we have actually seen 7 human Cylon models throughout the series before the 4 galactica staff were revealed...there really is only one left to be revealed!

The only one not featured in this episode was the xena/reporter chick, who was boxed up like you guys said.

Oh man oh man!

"We found these inhibitors... and removed them." Wazahhh!?

That was the awesome!  I hope the centurions kick butt and take names!


Anyone notice that there's actually 2 human/cylon love children? What about chief Tyrol's baby!!??   

Yep!  I've been saying that too!

http://tastyfresh.com/forum/index.php?topic=9451.0


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 13, 2008, 04:27:38 PM
So...... Baltar? Back to him as a cylon then. Makes sense, if he was a defective model for example. Screwed up emotions... heck, he could have been the first model.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 14, 2008, 02:29:45 AM
It's totally possible... but I think that would be SUCH a cop-out. Mostly for Baltar personally, if he turns out to be a Cylon then everything he's been through has in one sense been for nothing. I think he has to be a human, otherwise he'll be able to claim an excuse for all his dirty dealings, and the truth is he is just dirt.

You know what crossed my mind when "Boomer" voted against her line? What if she's actually Sharon... and when "Sharon" grabbed her baby back and returned to the Galactica, they did a switch. But that would have been in place for a loooong time.

The other thing I've been thinking about lately is the concept of the skinjob Cylons being just a next stage of human evolution. They don't seem to even know where they came from. If they "evolved" as robots, surely there are other designs, floor plans so-to-speak... failed models (I suppose like your Baltar theory). And the thing is, given the lack of accurate Cylon detector, what's to say once the fleet researches Earth that the population living there (I assume there's a population) is human or Cylon?

And at that stage... would it matter?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 14, 2008, 07:13:20 AM
So...... Baltar? Back to him as a cylon then. Makes sense, if he was a defective model for example. Screwed up emotions... heck, he could have been the first model.

Another awesome part about this episode was Baltar appearing to himself!!!

It would seem that he would be a Cylon to be seeing all these manifestations, as the only other person to see them is 6 herself. 

I agree it would be somewhat of a letdown if he was, but how else is he seeing this stuff??

The other thing I've been thinking about lately is the concept of the skinjob Cylons being just a next stage of human evolution.

That's almost like what the Hybrid was saying in this episode!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 14, 2008, 07:42:50 AM
That's almost like what the Hybrid was saying in this episode!

That's right! I knew it wasn't an original idea, but I couldn't remember why not. haha.

RE: Baltar. Not a Cylon. No way. He's just insane. TOTAL mental break when he realised he was responsible for the destruction of almost the entire human race.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 14, 2008, 07:47:58 AM
I agree it would be somewhat of a letdown if he was, but how else is he seeing this stuff??

Well... he could also be "the one true cylon god." He could also be the first attempt to add emotions to the cylons and deemed (for obvious reasons) to be a complete failure. It also would explain why none of the cylons could tell he's one. It's all b/c they're programmed not to recognize it.

The other thing I've been thinking about lately is the concept of the skinjob Cylons being just a next stage of human evolution.

That's almost like what the Hybrid was saying in this episode!

Cylon evolution... not human. ;)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 14, 2008, 07:49:32 AM
RE: Baltar. Not a Cylon. No way. He's just insane. TOTAL mental break when he realised he was responsible for the destruction of almost the entire human race.

Possibly. One good thing about the writing for the show is how they keep coming back to Baltar as the center of everything that has happened. Like it or not, he's a pivot point for the entire show.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 14, 2008, 07:54:35 AM
Also interesting that when Roslin shot at Starbuck, she hit the picture of her and Adama.

Kind of ironic that the picture of Roslin & Adama would be shot, and then they have their tiff later.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 14, 2008, 08:00:22 AM
Oh yeah, forgot to mention. Lee and Dowalla break up. About time closure was brought there.

And Helo on the mission again! He's honestly the best fix-it guy ever. Such a badmon.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 14, 2008, 09:43:56 AM
Cylon evolution... not human. ;)

We'll see  ;)

That's right! I knew it wasn't an original idea, but I couldn't remember why not. hah

No, I think it's your original idea, it's just what i was thinking as well when the Hybrid was talking, but she never clearly said anything like that.

Here's what she said:

Quote from: the Hybrid
The excited state decays by vibrational relaxation into the first excited ?synthid? state

Yes, yes and verily we go

Reduce Atmospheric Nitrogen by 0.03%

It is not much consolation that society will pick up the bits

Leaving us in ?8? modern where punishment rather than interdiction is paramount

Please cut the fuse

They will not harm their own

End of Line…

Limiting diffusions to two dimensions increases the number of evolutionary jumps within the species

Rise and measure the temple of the 5

Transformation is the goal

They will not harm their own


I put question marks around "synthid" and "8" because I was unsure of those words.

Everything else seems pretty clear to me.

(You can watch the episode over and over again on Sci-Fi Channels website)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 14, 2008, 12:18:19 PM
Other possibility...

Cylon 5 is Zab...what's his name who is played by the original Apollo. That would be cool.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 14, 2008, 12:25:17 PM
That'd be a cool tie-in... but they've have to do some convincing on why it's him. Unless they start playing that up now that Lee is working for him... or for whoever he's working for.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 14, 2008, 12:50:11 PM
Zarek


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 14, 2008, 01:07:44 PM
That'd be a cool tie-in... but they've have to do some convincing on why it's him. Unless they start playing that up now that Lee is working for him... or for whoever he's working for.

No, they don't need to do some convincing. They just need to find him on Earth as the original Apollo.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 15, 2008, 05:14:35 AM
Snap!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 15, 2008, 06:03:50 AM
That would be cool, but also anticlimactic.

It would give it a solid tie in to the original series


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 15, 2008, 07:40:59 AM
It'd actually be in the right vein for the show though. Everything has been pointing to the fact that it's happened before. I think it would be perfect.

What all would that mean? Seriously. It would through EVERYTHING into question and that's what the show goes for.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: noah on April 16, 2008, 09:59:04 PM
effing epic.



for your convenience:

Number One (aka Brother Cavil)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0b/Battlestar_Galactica_2x20_Lay_Down_Your_Burdens_Part2_Cavill.jpg/180px-Battlestar_Galactica_2x20_Lay_Down_Your_Burdens_Part2_Cavill.jpg)

Number Two (aka Leoben Conoy)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8d/Leoben_Conoy_-_Battlestar_Galactica.jpg/180px-Leoben_Conoy_-_Battlestar_Galactica.jpg)

Number Three (aka D'Anna Biers)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/54/BattlestarGalactica_--_3x03_-_Exodus_P1.jpg/180px-BattlestarGalactica_--_3x03_-_Exodus_P1.jpg)

Number Four (aka Simon)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b1/BattlestarGalactica_2x05_The_Farm_Simon.jpg/180px-BattlestarGalactica_2x05_The_Farm_Simon.jpg)

Number Five (aka Aaron Doral)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2b/BattlestarGalactica_1x06_Litmus.jpg/180px-BattlestarGalactica_1x06_Litmus.jpg)

Number Six
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5e/Number_Six_Tricia_Helfer.jpg/180px-Number_Six_Tricia_Helfer.jpg)

Number Eight
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bb/Battlestar_Galactica_1x12_Number_Eights.jpg/180px-Battlestar_Galactica_1x12_Number_Eights.jpg)

The "Final Five" (Numbers Seven, Nine, Ten, Eleven, Twelve)
Samuel T. Anders, Galen Tyrol, Tory Foster, Saul Tigh...  and one other motherfracker.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 16, 2008, 11:46:32 PM
hahaha, good job.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 17, 2008, 06:50:22 AM
Nice!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 17, 2008, 06:54:56 AM
I think Lobot is the final Cylon.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 17, 2008, 07:05:01 AM
 :laugh:


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 17, 2008, 08:01:37 AM
I guess what threw me off last Friday was 6's hair was more like 3's. Sometimes I'm really bad with faces.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 17, 2008, 09:53:50 AM
Speaking of faces... hahaha, wierdest thing! I had a dream last night Dave that you and your wife secretly lived in Canada (and were ashamed of it). I was visiting my in-laws and discovered you lived in their basement, with very view possessions but a MASSIVE TV.

Amusing considering all I really know of your face is that little red image that we all see. But it was definitely you, I could tell by the nature of our conversation.

 :laugh:


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 17, 2008, 11:09:10 AM
You sure do dream of Tasty folk a lot  ;)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: noah on April 17, 2008, 11:43:45 AM
he loves us.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 17, 2008, 12:04:35 PM
Secret's out I guess.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 18, 2008, 06:34:34 AM
Secret Invasion.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 19, 2008, 08:30:27 PM
HOLY CRAP!!!! That episode rocked and sucked at the same time. WoW. Cylon vs cylon continues... the secret gets out and then...well... unfortunately contained. I have no idea where they're going with things this season. Wow.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: djtrailer on April 19, 2008, 10:46:44 PM
hmmm......what is this battlestar you speak of?........



















 :laugh:


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 20, 2008, 02:41:21 PM
CALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?


 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: noah on April 20, 2008, 08:14:04 PM
CALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?


 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(

seriously.

 :smiley6:


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 20, 2008, 09:12:20 PM
Seriously didn't see that one coming at all. :(


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: djtrailer on April 20, 2008, 11:47:17 PM
I guess something bad happened  :D


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 21, 2008, 07:20:31 AM
Bad story wise? Dunno. Won't know until they get to  the point at the end of the series.

Let's just say... Chief is gonna get real pissed when the truth comes out and even then, he's gonna be pissed about the way it went down prior to that.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 21, 2008, 02:13:07 PM
HOLY MOTHER. Just finished watching it.

I don't even know what to say. Oh man.

Oh man oh man.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 22, 2008, 03:47:16 AM
The other girl [Tori], yeah... I don't really care. They'll have to do something to make us care.

And oh how they did.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 22, 2008, 06:42:26 AM
oh how they did...

 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: noah on April 22, 2008, 10:13:04 AM
what if cally comes back to life as the final cylon and just straight up bitch slaps tori.

...

...and then they kiss. 


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 22, 2008, 10:56:56 AM
lol


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 22, 2008, 11:12:39 AM
 :laugh:


You know, I was seriously wondering if Cally was a Cylon when she mentioned she hadn't been able to sleep ever since they hit the nebula.

I was hoping the last one is Baltar or Starbuck, or Adama or someone big, but now I wouldn't mind seeing Cally alive again either.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 22, 2008, 11:15:38 AM
what if cally comes back to life as the final cylon and just straight up bitch slaps tori.

...

...and then they kiss. 

OK... that would be acceptable. Maybe. One problem... can the final five resurrect?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 22, 2008, 11:22:56 AM
Good question!

Even if they can, there's no resurrection ship nearby.

And if there was, do they have to have copies of their bodies premade?

If so, that would make it pretty hard to keep the final five a secret, if you have a bunch of copies of their bodies.

If there are no premade bodies, they can't resurrect though.

Maybe that's part of the reason the final 5 are so secret...they are so vulnrable


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 22, 2008, 11:36:26 AM
Seriously, that's been obvious from the start ;) At least to me. That's driven home by the Cabal's attack on the 6's (and others).

BTW, Boomer and Cabal??? Really??? *sigh* Oh well. That was set up with season 3 with Saul's wife I guess. Seems the priest isn't so holy after all.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 22, 2008, 11:40:50 AM
Seriously, that's been obvious from the start ;) 

What's that?

That a rez ship has to be nearby or they are dead?  Yeah, that's been obvious ever since we knew about rez ships.

Or did you mean it's been obvious to you that the final 5 can't resurrect?


BTW, Boomer and Cabal??? Really??? *sigh* 

Yeah, siiiiiiiick!!!! :hurt:


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 22, 2008, 11:57:59 AM
Seriously, that's been obvious from the start ;) 

What's that?

That a rez ship has to be nearby or they are dead?  Yeah, that's been obvious ever since we knew about rez ships.

Or did you mean something else?

I just meant it was obvious from the start that the final 5 wouldn't be on the Rez ships. At least not unless they vat grow you AFTER you die. If that's the case, they have one heck of a bio/mechanical factory in that ship.

For the final 5 to be on the ships, that would mean the cylons are programmed to not only discuss the final five (which they constantly do now... their programming has changed) but also to ignore the bodies that don't match up with the other 7 models.


BTW, Boomer and Cabal??? Really??? *sigh* 

Yeah, siiiiiiiick!!!! :hurt:

I'm "ok" with it, but wow.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 22, 2008, 12:01:58 PM
I At least not unless they vat grow you AFTER you die...but also to ignore the bodies that don't match up with the other 7 models.

Very true, good observations!

 
I'm "ok" with it, but wow.

It grosses me out, but I think that's what it is intended to do.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 26, 2008, 01:49:00 AM
So baltar's invisible 6 can physically touch people?

From his view it showed her reaching under his arms and hauling him up during the beatdown.

From the crowds view, it looked as if something invisible was hauling Baltar up!!!

Col Tigh is going crazy

Chief Tyrol lost it

Tori went Psycho

3 of the 4 people who have been revealed as the final 5 have become unstable!

Only Starbuck's hubby is still "sane"


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 26, 2008, 03:37:34 AM
It's because he's athletic. Channeling his rage and confusion into pure Pyramid skills.

This episode left me a little unsatisfied, but it's the kind of episode that's absolutely needed after the first 3... and will set up more to come, obviously. No major revelations in this one, but lots of establishment.

I'm enjoying how amped everything. The camera angles feel a bit more intense, the character drama is being pushed to the max, people's minds/hearts are being examined so closely, the politics is tight and intense. Everything the show's been great for is on steroids now.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: james tucker on April 27, 2008, 10:03:52 AM
This last episode stressed me out - mainly because I am a new dad and they kept fighting in front of that baby and I seriously thought they were going to kill both Cally and the baby off (remember the mini-series when #6 friggin killed a baby within 20 minutes of the opening credits).


The final cylon is either: Jamey Wright, Scott Blackwell, or that guy Jeremy Dawson that used to fight with everyone on the old HTML forum.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 27, 2008, 10:07:30 AM
 :laugh:

There's a new episode online now James!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 27, 2008, 12:45:29 PM
So baltar's invisible 6 can physically touch people?

From his view it showed her reaching under his arms and hauling him up during the beatdown.

From the crowds view, it looked as if something invisible was hauling Baltar up!!!

No. They've always shown her like this. It's still in his mind. She's not physically there. His feet never left the ground, so his subconscious mind was doing it all.

Col Tigh is going crazy

Yah think??? What did you expect? He killed his wife b/c she had sex with cylons and gives them information about the resistance to free him. He then kills her when he finds out. Now he finds out that he's a skin job too. He's got the right to go nuts.

Although, I think he's trying to come to grips with things rather than loose it. Seeking out 6 was a good thing, but dangerous.

Chief Tyrol lost it

But... in doing so he did a smart thing and that's getting himself transferred away from Tori.

Tori went Psycho
Not sure she ever was stable, but that's another story.

3 of the 4 people who have been revealed as the final 5 have become unstable!

Production flaws? Part of it I think is just dealing with reality. At this point, their lives are VERY confused. Tori's isn't though since she has the least amount of baggage from my viewpoint.

Only Starbuck's hubby is still "sane"
That remains to be seen.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 27, 2008, 07:27:19 PM
No. They've always shown her like this. It's still in his mind. She's not physically there. His feet never left the ground, so his subconscious mind was doing it all.

This was different, he couldn't have levitated like that on his own. 

This was a physical manifestation of 6.

They've NEVER shown that before.

Unless Baltar is revealed to have Telekinesis, it wasn't his mind.

Yah think??? What did you expect? He killed his wife b/c she had sex with cylons and gives them information about the resistance to free him. He then kills her when he finds out. Now he finds out that he's a skin job too. He's got the right to go nuts.

I didn't say he didn't have a reason to, I just stated that he WAS losing it.

Seeking out 6 was a good thing, but dangerous.

Yes.  Having sex with 6 is exactly what he needs.

No.  Wait.... :laugh:
 

But... in doing so he did a smart thing and that's getting himself transferred away from Tori.

Really?  Are they transferring him to a different ship?  I might have missed that.

I know Adama demoted him to a petty officer and he's not chief anymore, but unless he goes to a different ship that doesn't get him away from Tori.  Their relationship didn't come from his work, so if they are still on the same ship, nothing has changed.

Not sure she ever was stable, but that's another story.

That's a fair statement, we really don't know a lot about her, so she may have never been "sane."

It seems like she was, but she seems to have snapped after being forced to have sex with Baltar.

That's her only baggage, aside from the revelation that she's a cylon, and now of course, killing Cally.

That's pretty huge though, it's almost like rape, even though she wasn't forced by him, she was forced by the fear of people finding out she's a cylon.
 
That remains to be seen.

Yeah, but so far we haven't seen otherwise, that's all I was saying.

Production flaws? Part of it I think is just dealing with reality. At this point, their lives are VERY confused.

Yeah, it's hard to say if it's truly because they are cylons, or if it's just a human reaction to having such a huge revelation and their lives being so screwed up.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 27, 2008, 08:03:30 PM
No. They've always shown her like this. It's still in his mind. She's not physically there. His feet never left the ground, so his subconscious mind was doing it all.

This was different, he couldn't have levitated like that on his own. 

This was a physical manifestation of 6.

They didn't show his feet leaving the ground. Period. He got up on his own. It was whatever junk that's been going on in his head.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 27, 2008, 11:44:31 PM
No. They've always shown her like this. It's still in his mind. She's not physically there. His feet never left the ground, so his subconscious mind was doing it all.

This was different, he couldn't have levitated like that on his own. 

This was a physical manifestation of 6.

They've NEVER shown that before.

Unless Baltar is revealed to have Telekinesis, it wasn't his mind.

I'm with Carey on this one. I think it was different to before. I'm not sure it was intentionally different, or if actually impacts anything, but it had me going: "What the... this is different!"


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 28, 2008, 06:05:19 AM
They didn't show his feet leaving the ground. Period. He got up on his own. It was whatever junk that's been going on in his head.

Watch it again.

He got up in such a way that his entire body was just sagging, and he wasn't making any effort to get up at all, yet some other force pulled him up.

His feet may not have left the ground, but they were not planted on it firmly either.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 28, 2008, 07:38:15 AM
You could still do that. I did rewind it a few times. I'm simply saying that his subconscious mind has more control over his body than his conscious one does.  From everything I've seen, heard or read... 6 is all in his head and not a "ghost" or anything like that.

You should have been calling this in the first season when she pulled his necktie so tight he was choking himself. Of course, then... they showed him actually holding his tie.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 28, 2008, 08:03:48 AM
I'm simply saying that his subconscious mind has more control over his body than his conscious one does.  From everything I've seen, heard or read... 6 is all in his head and not a "ghost" or anything like that.

You should have been calling this in the first season when she pulled his necktie so tight he was choking himself. Of course, then... they showed him actually holding his tie.

I'm pretty much convinced that everything is in Baltar's head. He's absolutely cracked. But as Dave pointed out there have been a few times since the start when they hint that maybe  6 IS there. But I think they may just be teasing... or else even creative flaws.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 28, 2008, 08:07:19 AM
No, not flaws. It's intentional. They WANT to make you think Baltar really isn't nuts. It helps to explain why ppl would follow him after all he's done.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: noah on April 28, 2008, 09:04:07 AM
If Baltar is the Final Cylon I'll throw my TV out the window.

He has to be human so he doesn't have an excuse for his actions.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 28, 2008, 09:09:59 AM
^ That's exactly my perspective.

Dave, fair enough. So do you think they're just teasing then?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 28, 2008, 09:11:54 AM
He can't be. Unless... well... it makes sense and it doesn't.

Rumor has it... the fifth isn't in this image:

(http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/images/downloads/desktops/season04_800.jpg)

So... you can rule out Baltar and Starbuck.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 28, 2008, 09:14:46 AM
Dave, fair enough. So do you think they're just teasing then?

Teasing for what??? I think they are showing (again) that Baltar is a danger to everyone including himself. People aren't getting that, because somehow... miraculously... Baltar has developed some "christ-like" powers.

More answers coming next week. (http://video.scifi.com/player/?id=244913) Oh wait... I mean questions.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 28, 2008, 09:17:33 AM
Your image didn't embed, but you're talking about the "Final Supper" I guess. I've heard that rumour as well.

What I meant by the producers teasing: If you also think Baltar is human, then what do you make of the periodic questions of his humanity? Like the case we've been discussing. I think they're thrown in their to make us question... but at the end they'll turn out to be red herrings... or rabbit trails (depending on your choice of colloquialism).


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 28, 2008, 09:44:25 AM
Look, I do think that it's possible for Baltar to be the Cylon's "1 true god" since he is a robotics engineer. Never forget that. ;)

Remember all this has happened before. Baltar, or whoever played his part in humanity's earlier destruction was probably the creator of the Cylons. To them, he would be a god.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 28, 2008, 11:00:08 AM
The physical 6 (that everyone can see) has had a Baltar apparition appearing to her, and just a few episodes ago, her Baltar apparition appeared to Baltar himself.

It can't all be in his head, or she wouldn't be seeing it too, and it can't be in her head, or her baltar couldn't be appearing to him.

I don't understand what these things really are yet, but they aren't just in his head.

Maybe the Baltar and the 6 are actually the same thing, but it just changes it's appearance depending on who it's communicating with.

Whether it's appearing to Baltar or 6, it seems to have the same personality, just a different likeness.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 28, 2008, 11:59:11 AM
6 has her own issues Carey. She started to explain that to Tigh in this episode. She's cracked up to, but probably not as bad.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 28, 2008, 12:10:35 PM
You can say they both cracked up, but both cracked up people are having the same visions?

I don't buy it.

Yeah they are crazy, no argument there, but there is something else going on with these "appearances."


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 28, 2008, 12:45:38 PM
They aren't having the same visions, just the same TYPE of visions ;) There is also no indication that either 6 or Baltar know what their "invisible" counterparts have said.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 28, 2008, 01:12:55 PM
They aren't having the same visions, just the same TYPE of visions ;)

The visions are too specific and too similar just to be a coincidence.

If just one of them were having them, ok, maybe it's just because they are crazy, but both of them having such similar visions?

There is also no indication that either 6 or Baltar know what their "invisible" counterparts have said.

Just the fact that there are more than one of them, and that more than one person is seeing them, shows there is more going on than just Baltar being crazy.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 28, 2008, 02:14:31 PM
The visions are too specific and too similar just to be a coincidence.

I never said otherwise. Seriously. It could all be related to the nuclear blast of Caprica for example. Regardless, they're both nuts and it's in their heads.

Just the fact that there are more than one of them, and that more than one person is seeing them, shows there is more going on than just Baltar being crazy.

Nobody said there wasn't a point to him going crazy ;) He still is though.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 28, 2008, 02:30:38 PM
Quote from: Dave Richards
I never said otherwise. Seriously. It could all be related to the nuclear blast of Caprica for example. Regardless, they're both nuts and it's in their heads.

There's more to it, much like Six, Char, and Roslin all having the same dream.

Nobody said there wasn't a point to him going crazy ;) He still is though.

yeah, he is crazy.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 28, 2008, 02:50:37 PM
All of this will come together at some point Carey. I just disagree that it's something beyond what's in their heads.

That dream was more like an out of body experience since at least 6 and Roslin knew it was each other in the dream.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 28, 2008, 06:16:12 PM
In the season 3 episode "Torn" Baltar is walking on a Cylon base star with Six, and asks if they are walking in circles.

She explains that to him it probably seems that way because everything looks the same to him, but that she was "projecting."

When he asks what that is, she compares it to a daydream.

She explained that she enjoyed the aesthetics of a forest, so that's the environment she chose to be in, and that she was seeing herself in a forest, and was surrounded by trees and wildlife, not the cold walls of a base star.

Then Baltar's "head" 6 joins in the conversation, but only with him of course. 

He notes how similar his "head" episodes with 6 are to what the real 6 is describing as projecting.

"head" 6 agrees.

This scares him and he yells out "AM I A CYLON??!!"

Real 6 turns around shocked saying, "WHAT was that??"

Baltar says, "oh, nothing, just mumbling."

That was the whole episode where he fixated on whether he was a Cylon or not.

I don't think he is, but maybe some cylon "projecting" is going on somehow, and maybe they can project to him even though he is a human, in the same way Roslin could be in the dream even though she was a human.

That would be in their heads, like you think.

The only thing that still doesn't jive is that "head" 6 seems to be prophetic.

A lot of things she predicts you could assume Baltar already deduced somehow by reading people or paying attention to details, and argue that it wasn't really prophecy, but just him noticing things and his mind using 6 to predict what was obvious anyway.

There are some things she predicts though, that I don't see how he could know.

For instance she told Baltar the Cylon baby was coming before Sharon and Tyrol had it.

How would he know that?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 28, 2008, 08:15:54 PM
So... Baltar daydreams. So do I. :)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 30, 2008, 06:56:32 AM
You daydream like Baltar?   :o

You're married dude!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 30, 2008, 07:43:59 AM
not content wise. :)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 30, 2008, 10:51:06 AM
I was just funnin ya!  :smiley8:

I think their projecting is a little different then our daydreaming anyway.

Also, reality usually jars you from daydreaming, but in Baltar's case, whatever it is he's doing seems to be mixing with reality.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 30, 2008, 12:34:01 PM
Um... yeah Carey... that's how I daydream. Reality is sometimes mixed in.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 30, 2008, 12:46:42 PM
You know what I mean  ;)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 30, 2008, 01:07:34 PM
No I don't b/c I don't think you fully understand what I'm saying. Maybe I'm too disturbed.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 30, 2008, 01:14:16 PM
One thing I do find a little hard to swallow is why more people in the show don't outright say that Baltar is insane. Plenty of people have walked in him having "moments"... I think there should be more "OK, what's the deal with Baltar?" conversations... aside from people just hating on him.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 30, 2008, 01:30:34 PM
It's b/c...

1) He's brilliant... so he's strange by default.
2) He's charismatic... so he's strange by default.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 30, 2008, 01:47:57 PM
(http://www.conquestministries.com/dancechapel/images/CylonCGI.jpg)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on April 30, 2008, 02:39:10 PM
That's awesome.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on April 30, 2008, 03:29:47 PM
I'm view #666 for this thread!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: john.christian on April 30, 2008, 03:48:36 PM
Well that explains it. ~_0


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on April 30, 2008, 06:42:41 PM
It's his hat


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: danking on May 01, 2008, 11:48:05 AM
The only thing that still doesn't jive is that "head" 6 seems to be prophetic.

The other bit that is bizarre though is that early episode what 6 actually appeared physically and walked onto the bridge and challenged Baltar.  Everyone saw her.  That was no projection.  How does that fit in, or did I miss that being resolved in another episode?

::dan::


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on May 01, 2008, 12:08:11 PM
Yeah, that was resolved. She was for real.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: john.christian on May 01, 2008, 12:28:50 PM
Yeah, that was resolved. She was for real.

Then how did she mysteriously disappear from the ship?

In that episode, they looked everywhere for her once they discovered what she was but all that was left of her was her glasses.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 01, 2008, 12:34:28 PM
I'd forgotten about that bit!

Nice one fellas  :)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on May 01, 2008, 03:03:19 PM
Add that to a list of unexplained things ;)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 02, 2008, 06:18:25 AM
Add that to a list of unexplained things ;)

That hint at it being more than just in Baltar's head  :)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on May 02, 2008, 07:30:03 AM
I'm not 100% sure. Besides... do we REALLY know that was the same 6? Other ppl have sneaked onto the ship in the past.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 02, 2008, 08:18:13 AM
True.

That's why it's a hint and not a fact  :)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: DWord on May 02, 2008, 02:13:08 PM
He can't be. Unless... well... it makes sense and it doesn't.

Rumor has it... the fifth isn't in this image:

(http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/images/downloads/desktops/season04_800.jpg)

So... you can rule out Baltar and Starbuck.

This is a very interesting theory on the 5th Cylon and the above image..
http://screenrant.com/archives/who-is-the-last-cylon-on-battl-1592.html


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on May 02, 2008, 02:25:12 PM
All of humanity as a cylon would be a bigger cop-out than Baltar.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 02, 2008, 02:41:14 PM
http://screenrant.com/archives/who-is-the-last-cylon-on-battl-1592.html

Quote
I have to warn you that as of April 4th of this year, it was reported over on EW that the first 10 of the last 20 episodes are scheduled to air - which seems to confirm what they were saying over on SyFy Portal about the season being split up


 >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(


Title: The Road Less Travelled
Post by: thepudd on May 04, 2008, 02:51:02 AM
Helo. Once again... such a badass.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 05, 2008, 06:54:35 AM
yup!

Now to see if he can grapple, cause Starbuck is gonna throw down!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on May 05, 2008, 07:00:59 AM
Yeah... I was happy with it. Galen being drawn into Baltar's cult is interesting. He can't be the 5th, yet... he's slowly attracting the loyalties of all the final 5.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 05, 2008, 07:09:20 AM
Yeah... I was happy with it. Galen being drawn into Baltar's cult is interesting. He can't be the 5th, yet... he's slowly attracting the loyalties of all the final 5.

I don't know about can't be, but he's probably not the 5th, and I sure don't want him to be.

It is shocking that he has one two of the four to him.

It was crazy to see Galen go for that, and shave his head too.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: noah on May 05, 2008, 09:55:48 PM
nnnnooooo ccchhhhiiieeefffff.

i hope it turns out ok for the chief.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 06, 2008, 06:16:51 AM
Don't go to the dark side chief!

RESIST!!!!!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Big Dave on May 07, 2008, 05:15:30 AM
ok here is a theory to throw out there.

the remaining five, that they are no longer aloud to think about, split away from the others before the war started. and they lost so they were stricken from the memory. but some got away and are now working on a plot of there own. but they dont fully know it.

in other words there was a civil war before. and now again. comes back to that thing that everything has happend before.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 07, 2008, 06:25:54 AM
Interesting, kinda like what Dword Posted, except your theory keeps skinjob cylons and humans different, which I like better.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: DWord on May 07, 2008, 02:22:46 PM
Interesting, kinda like what Dword Posted, except your theory keeps skinjob cylons and humans different, which I like better.

We're all machines right?!  :-\

Did anybody notice how the chief's baby cried when he turned off Baltar's radio broadcast and then stopped when he turned it back on??


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 07, 2008, 02:39:40 PM
Yeah I picked up on that, interesting.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on May 07, 2008, 03:08:22 PM
Not really. When you have a kid, you'll be amazed at what keeps them quiet.

Anybody remember Murphy Brown? She couldn't keep her baby quiet w/o Barry Manalow.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: john.christian on May 07, 2008, 04:20:27 PM
Is Barry Manalow a Cylon?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 08, 2008, 09:22:27 AM
Is Barry Manalow a Cylon?

 :laugh:


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on May 08, 2008, 03:06:01 PM
Clearly.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 09, 2008, 07:18:09 AM
TONIGHT!!!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 10, 2008, 11:02:32 PM
"Let the Cylon go"  about Shar/Athena....wow.  People have accepted she is there and part of the group, so the comments had died down, but the distrust was still boiling under the surface just wating to come out.

Bald President, creepy.

In the boat vision, she saw her mom and said she wasn't ready yet.

Then she pulled away and her hand was on the rail of the ship, and it flashed a closeup of a bracelet on her wrist, what was the significance of that?

Starbuck showdown with the centurion, double gun blastin!

Then the hybrid, "thus will it come to pass, the dying leader will know the truth of the opera house, the missing 3 will give you the 5, who have come from the home of the 13th.  You are the harbinger of death Kara Thrace, you will lead them all to their end.

The final 5 cylons ARE from earth!  That would explain A LOT.

Sam was definitely struggling with his Cylon nature, hating 6 for killing, but compassionate with the 3 when she was dying.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on May 11, 2008, 06:17:29 PM
This fits more in my theory that the final one should be Zarak/Orig Apollo doesn't it? ;)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 12, 2008, 07:18:41 AM
It definitely helps your theory, and moves towards that line of thinking.

"Should be" are strong words though!   ;)


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on May 14, 2008, 04:57:52 AM
The home of the 13th could refer to humanity in general, rather than earth.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 14, 2008, 06:16:01 AM
It could.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on May 14, 2008, 10:53:21 AM
This episode was hot. Maybe my favourite of the season.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on May 14, 2008, 11:34:45 AM
The home of the 13th could refer to humanity in general, rather than earth.

Each colony had their own planet. So... if the 13th is the colony that left for Earth, it's home world is Earth. Unless they are referring to the planet the 13th LEFT, it has to be Earth.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 14, 2008, 11:54:51 AM
This episode was hot. Maybe my favourite of the season.

Word!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on May 14, 2008, 12:22:51 PM
The home of the 13th could refer to humanity in general, rather than earth.

Each colony had their own planet. So... if the 13th is the colony that left for Earth, it's home world is Earth. Unless they are referring to the planet the 13th LEFT, it has to be Earth.

Yeah, but the hybrid didn't say home world. It said home. There's ambiguity there. And there's been plenty of doubt among the humans as to the success or existence of the 13th colony. What it's all metaphoric.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on May 14, 2008, 12:32:06 PM
If it's all metaphor... I'm REALLY gonna hate the end of the show.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on May 14, 2008, 02:39:45 PM
Haha, yeah me too.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: john.christian on May 14, 2008, 09:25:09 PM
It's all in the mind of an autistic child.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on May 14, 2008, 09:44:00 PM
Isn't that Eureka?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 15, 2008, 07:15:13 AM
It's sure not Battlestar


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: DWord on May 15, 2008, 11:09:11 AM
This episode was hot. Maybe my favourite of the season.

Word!

X2
This episode was pretty intense.

If it's all metaphor... I'm REALLY gonna hate the end of the show.

All the mystery seems to be built up in these metaphors. I think some people will be confused when the series is over.

...I like how they were just letting Gaeta bleed to death and suffer.  :(


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on May 15, 2008, 11:14:13 AM
You can't leave anyone behind and the raptors apparently don't have enough range to make it back to the fleet. So... what do you do?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: DWord on May 15, 2008, 11:21:43 AM
You can't leave anyone behind and the raptors apparently don't have enough range to make it back to the fleet. So... what do you do?

Every time they showed Gaeta he was like 10 times worse. I know that they couldn't do much but he was leaking like a faucet. They could have bandaged him better or something but, I guess they were just trying to make it seem more dramatic. He will be cooler with a wooden leg anyway! lol He's gonna be reaaally mad later.


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dave Richards on May 15, 2008, 11:28:23 AM
Oh yeah. He's gonna be. Beyond that... if he's the 5th... what's that going to do to him?


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 15, 2008, 12:03:02 PM
Oh yeah. He's gonna be. Beyond that... if he's the 5th... what's that going to do to him?

I've been wondering about that, and if so...


Crrrraaazy!


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on May 16, 2008, 12:11:00 AM
Felix Gaeta. I could see him being one crazy cat if he cracks a little, he's got lots of pent up aggression.

So, they all just missed the rendezvous window. I'm guessing that won't be a problem, and they'll jump back and find that Adama also delayed on the rendezvous window... or else they decide not to go back immediately cause Adama will blow a gasket when they bug in with a Basestar in tow. But that's the kind of drama we thrive on here...


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: thepudd on May 16, 2008, 12:11:22 AM
Haha... "Well boss, we didn't find Earth, but..."


Title: Re: Battlestar Season 4
Post by: Dancechapel on May 16, 2008, 06:29:29 AM
"here's a cylon base ship"  8)  8)  ;D