Community => Dance Culture & News => Topic started by: Tim Richards on February 17, 2008, 11:04:35 PM



Title: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Tim Richards on February 17, 2008, 11:04:35 PM
now......

as an artist releasing stuff on 'non christian' labels, i often wonder if its even worth my time to send stuff to 'christian' labels as they have no market and well lets be blunt generally christians don't get dance music anyways!

quotes like this come to mind........
"What I was trying to explain was that The Holy Spirit warned me that this Dance Music seemed nice but was a SATANIC influence."

my honest thoughts are i can do a whole lot more with my music if its on 'non christian' labels but feel like i should at least make an effort with the churchies and of late i have been getting some reaction with remix requests coming in. So some stuff is starting to come through, but i had to get the releases on the other labels first!

don't get me wrong when i started Djin i wanted to play all christian music but quickly realized that its mostly cheese!

so to cut my rant down, do people agree with my thoughts or think Im a bit of a diddle  :P


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Chris Harrington on February 17, 2008, 11:09:04 PM
i 100% agree with you mate, Not that im bashing christian labels i think there great, im even working with one at the moment. But i do think you that u can do more good by releasing stuff on a non christian label than by  releasing stuff on a christian label


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Christopher Carl on February 18, 2008, 12:04:13 AM
Tim, (great to have you here BTW)

I'd say don't worry about a Christian label. As long as you make it known that you are a believer (and spend time in some prayerful council), Christians will find you. I honestly believe that God will guide his children to find the music they like, especially if that music is made by another believer. Just look at all the Christians in the mainstream that we at Tastyfresh are aware of. It's no coincidence. It's His hand guiding us.

There used to be a time when Christians would only listen to something on Word, Sparrow, Essential, etc. There are still some, but for the most part, today's Christian is not being spoon fed from a Christian record label.

Do what you do, man. Seek God, give Him the glory, and He will bless the work of your hands. That's scripture.


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: godlovesmaggots on February 18, 2008, 08:16:15 AM
I'm not a producer, but I'll throw out my $0.02 anyways cuz I believe that my thoughts apply more generally than just to this specific issue.....

IMO, you'd be wrong in not submitting music to a Christian label is if and only if you sincerely felt that God was directing you to release on a Christian label and you refused to do so. Of course, I could just as easily reverse it and say that it'd be equally wrong to release only on Christian labels if you sincerely felt God directing you to release on mainstream labels. It's the act of disobedience that makes it wrong, not what label you release on.


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Dancechapel on February 18, 2008, 08:27:26 AM
There's a lengthy discussion here about this subject:

http://www.tastyfresh.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,108/topic,10614.0


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Doug Theodore on February 18, 2008, 01:05:52 PM
not sure if we will ever see a legit christian dance label that actually gets some play in clubs.

not worth your time.


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: greenSKY on February 18, 2008, 01:26:56 PM

quotes like this come to mind........
"What I was trying to explain was that The Holy Spirit warned me that this Dance Music seemed nice but was a SATANIC influence."


Read Battlefield of the Mind by Joyce?
i disclaimed being infected by my thoughts and clear my mind more....
That type of thinking can be a trap to enjoyment of life a lot of times.

Although it is DEFINITELY good to know where your barriers are.
...Thats my take.


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: greenSKY on February 18, 2008, 01:28:20 PM
Tim, (great to have you here BTW)

I'd say don't worry about a Christian label. As long as you make it known that you are a believer (and spend time in some prayerful council), Christians will find you. I honestly believe that God will guide his children to find the music they like, especially if that music is made by another believer. Just look at all the Christians in the mainstream that we at Tastyfresh are aware of. It's no coincidence. It's His hand guiding us.

There used to be a time when Christians would only listen to something on Word, Sparrow, Essential, etc. There are still some, but for the most part, today's Christian is not being spoon fed from a Christian record label.

Do what you do, man. Seek God, give Him the glory, and He will bless the work of your hands. That's scripture.

THAT'S IT!!!!!!
Just be you.  And know that HEAVEN REIGNS!


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Chris Harrington on February 18, 2008, 03:31:45 PM
not sure if we will ever see a legit christian dance label that actually gets some play in clubs.


ya i doubt we will see that


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Christopher Carl on February 18, 2008, 07:03:00 PM
Tim, (great to have you here BTW)

I'd say don't worry about a Christian label. As long as you make it known that you are a believer (and spend time in some prayerful council), Christians will find you. I honestly believe that God will guide his children to find the music they like, especially if that music is made by another believer. Just look at all the Christians in the mainstream that we at Tastyfresh are aware of. It's no coincidence. It's His hand guiding us.

There used to be a time when Christians would only listen to something on Word, Sparrow, Essential, etc. There are still some, but for the most part, today's Christian is not being spoon fed from a Christian record label.

Do what you do, man. Seek God, give Him the glory, and He will bless the work of your hands. That's scripture.

THAT'S IT!!!!!!
Just be you.  And know that HEAVEN REIGNS!
wow, someone actually agreed with me.


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Doug Theodore on February 18, 2008, 10:52:23 PM
I agree with ya 404!


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: greenSKY on February 19, 2008, 07:54:55 AM


yeah but
i was talking to the man in the mirror....

(http://www.8notes.com/wiki/images/200px-WeAreTheWorld01.jpg)
i was asking him to change his ways......
*whispers* ((((make that change))))


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Dave Richards on February 19, 2008, 09:11:37 AM
^ dead serious: that was the theme song at youth camp one year. Ask doug. I told him about it last night.


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: ecliptik on February 19, 2008, 03:04:34 PM

quotes like this come to mind........
"What I was trying to explain was that The Holy Spirit warned me that this Dance Music seemed nice but was a SATANIC influence."


Read Battlefield of the Mind by Joyce?
i disclaimed being infected by my thoughts and clear my mind more....
That type of thinking can be a trap to enjoyment of life a lot of times.

Although it is DEFINITELY good to know where your barriers are.
...Thats my take.

LOL thats actually one of the name of my tacks, Battlefield of the Mind!


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Clank on February 20, 2008, 02:40:23 PM
not sure if we will ever see a legit christian dance label that actually gets some play in clubs.

not worth your time.

I've had various versions of my 'DawnLight' release played out in loads of clubs and radio.  Had a great response mostly in the secular world but also a growing amount of Christians liking what I do also.  The cool thing about Deeplife is the fact that it releases through all the online stores as opposed to Christian bookshops enabling me to do my own promotion.   Whatever label you are on isn't always the point, it's all about promotion.  You have to put the work into promoting your tracks.

Clank   :)


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Alex Wilson on February 20, 2008, 02:58:34 PM
but having the label have the ability to push your tracks also helps.


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: dj_ru on February 22, 2008, 04:04:30 AM
but having the label have the ability to push your tracks also helps.

That's true, but you have to look at what labels offer.  They all have good and bad points.  Never just rely on labels to do promotion though.  If they have lots of tracks to promote you have to give them a reason to promote yours, which can mean promoting your track to them!  (or do you mean just because you're with a certain label that promotes the track for you?)

dj ru


Title: Re: 'christian' labels vs 'non christian' labels
Post by: Alex Wilson on February 22, 2008, 02:10:22 PM
both. when i see a track on a label i like, i at least listen to it. the reputation of the label push your track. also, if it is a great track, the label do the active promotion (which you may not be able to afford) is great. they want to make the most money on your track which means getting it out to the most people possible. it works both ways.
for example, when i started spinning house, i sent a few tracks to some friends and said, who should i look at to find stuff like this. they responded by sending me some artists, and several labels. when a label is known for having quality tracks, everyone knows that it is going to be quality, even if it isnt their style.

inversely, if someone really doesnt like a label (there are a few disco house labels i really dont like) people know that and are less likely to check it out. i check them out every no and again to see if they are doing something good for a change, but never on a regular basis.